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How to Counter Golems, Newts?
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| EnduringMythos | Date: Tuesday, 07-Jan-2014, 11:16 PM | Message # 1 |
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| Hi, I was just wondering, what are the best strategies to counter golems? What about newts? I don't really have a solid game plan to take them on, so when an enemy team gets either type, I frequently get destroyed. I have used turtles to devour golems and bring them to my arcane towers, which works sometimes. But once, they're on to you its hard to devour a golem and get it back to base. Just wanted to know how to cope with these guys. Thanks!
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| ic3dt3a | Date: Tuesday, 07-Jan-2014, 11:47 PM | Message # 2 |
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| golems:
tech and surround
newts + blank golem/wards(piercing damage ones)
use turtle and devour it bringing it to ur base to kill it once turtle summon expires
use lizard to devour(has to eat it over time)
for lizard and golem method, you can use rune of recall(not sure f name) bought from base vault u build to instant teleport it to your base(this is costly though)
summons
using death and decay on them without getting stunned
explosion followed by raging storm
bladestorm
newts:
tech and surround
newts+ golems/wards(piercing damage ones)
banish + spell
explosion followed by nuke/aoe
summons
golem food cost should be 3-4, not 2
http://chf.ucoz.com/forum/71-3499-61942-16-1396993348
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| Yung | Date: Wednesday, 08-Jan-2014, 0:45 AM | Message # 3 |
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| lots of serpends wards is really good and vengence
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| FirNesS | Date: Wednesday, 08-Jan-2014, 1:55 AM | Message # 4 |
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| An other way to counter goleming is to go like ww/coil/bolt and to one shot the golemer's hero, so that his golems will be pretty useless. You need to have a good mass though
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| ZiZi-____-ZiZi | Date: Wednesday, 08-Jan-2014, 8:17 AM | Message # 5 |
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| My fun game against golems and successful :
I had: mind rape [ultimate spels], my friend the same mind rape,with this ulty hero can kill and golems easy. + aura devotio,aura unholy,healing wave,serpend ward,and mass aoe flamestrike.:D
For success you need to have a good frst mass. Because you need ulty as quickly as possible 
Everything depends on the team.
CHF for life :) ^^
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| AL_GI | Date: Wednesday, 08-Jan-2014, 8:34 AM | Message # 6 |
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| Or just troll like all team get coil and fire bolt+ww
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| RosarioVampireZ | Date: Wednesday, 08-Jan-2014, 8:56 AM | Message # 7 |
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| Against golems
Common strategy is:
get a lizzard (it has bloodlust and windwalk!) and use it while distracting the enemy golemmer with hero targetting (aoe/hk etc) <= anything to fill up screen so golemmer can't think properly
Against newts
Common stragedy is:
Don't get caught. It's next to impossible to kill these bastards and it ain't even worth it most of time.
Just fyi in ults.
Charm level 2+ works on golems
Explosion works well on golems
Vengence works well on golems
Tech works well on golems (Especially with tichmeh aura)
Forcefield works well on golems (stick it to wall xD)
Mindrape works well on golems (+ recall)
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| FirNesS | Date: Wednesday, 08-Jan-2014, 10:15 AM | Message # 8 |
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| Quote RosarioVampireZ (  ) Charm level 2+ works on golems
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| mehrquack | Date: Wednesday, 08-Jan-2014, 12:10 PM | Message # 9 |
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| level two works
In my opinion u guys forgot something importent
In the most game u are only able to counter golems+newts with tech
Newts counter liszard /turtle when u opponent team rule the map for exsample with wards [i forget the name of this spezicif ward but i think u know which one i mean :d]
Further if u are able to use lizzard against some creep : 1. Silence ur opponents with rats
2. Use lizzard's devour fast .
3.Use amulet of recall.
Added (08-Jan-2014, 11:51 AM)
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*when ur Added (08-Jan-2014, 12:10 PM)
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New idea of balancing chf =>
Newt aura by mehrquack :d
1 newt 50 spell reduction
2 newt 30 spell reduction
3 newt 10-20 spell reductiom
4 10 spell reduction
5 10 spell reduction
Aura :A group of newts effecting themslefes in a negative way . There is a spezific area where newts affecting themselves . So mass newts would be easier to kill with spells.
Being proud to be not an average"chf ucozer"
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| EnduringMythos | Date: Wednesday, 08-Jan-2014, 10:37 PM | Message # 10 |
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| Thanks guys!
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| ic3dt3a | Date: Wednesday, 08-Jan-2014, 11:04 PM | Message # 11 |
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| Quote mehrquack ( ) New idea of balancing chf =>
Newt aura by mehrquack :d
1 newt 50 spell reduction
2 newt 30 spell reduction
3 newt 10-20 spell reductiom
4 10 spell reduction
5 10 spell reduction
Aura :A group of newts effecting themslefes in a negative way . There is a spezific area where newts affecting themselves . So mass newts would be easier to kill with spells.
this is stupid... an easy way around this is to get allies to buy a newt for you
http://chf.ucoz.com/forum/71-3499-61942-16-1396993348
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| firelord | Date: Wednesday, 08-Jan-2014, 11:08 PM | Message # 12 |
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| Dropping by
I don't suffer from insanity. I enjoy every minute of it.
I used to de decent at CHF, until I took an arrow to the knee.
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| SOUNDWAVES | Date: Thursday, 09-Jan-2014, 0:11 AM | Message # 13 |
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| I see a lot of noobs and pubs are commenting about countering golem, newts bs.
especially mehrquack you need to learn stfu pub. who do you think you are?
you should learn your position 1st before you spit out bs.
There is no proper counter against mass golems and newts unless your skill is much higher than enemies.
but actually every golemers are stacking so you need to find some good alllies who can mass pool you for tech.
otherwise only bond can counter this shit as new verison.
Rest in Peace Rookies
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| AL_GI | Date: Thursday, 09-Jan-2014, 0:51 AM | Message # 14 |
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| What do you get more when you are VIP?( sorry it not the appropriate place where this message should be )
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| RosarioVampireZ | Date: Thursday, 09-Jan-2014, 1:33 AM | Message # 15 |
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| Quote AL_GI ( ) What do you get more when you are VIP?( sorry it not the appropriate place where this message should be )
and what do you get more? Nothing. Just honor. xD (Maybe admin)
I think he knows more about golemming/newting more than almost anyone here because he has experienced most games against it.
And to be perfectly honest, once unholy aura reaches level 2 or 3, it is next to impossible to even devour a golem (unless golemmer is stupid and doesn't move his golem 24/7 )
And to be more honest, it is practically impossible to kill MULTIPLE newts.
PS
For some reason, I never had problems with golemmers because
1. They are rare.
2. Most are stupid and initially start out field with 1 golem (quickly by lizzard and snatch it away before he starts stacking newts)
3. Most waste "net" so devouring is easy
4. Unholy at level 1 is devourable..... from level 2, it's really really really debatable
5. Golemmers tend to lose their grip moment they lose their heros (they just spam the golem to go home so they don't even counter if their golems get stuck. rofl)
Message edited by RosarioVampireZ - Thursday, 09-Jan-2014, 1:36 AM |
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