my ideas once again for next version................POOL OFF 100%
need a way to hurt ppl that just stick with 1 AOE hero all game, and dont upgrade base....like less gold per kill.
also need to do something with frost towers...either 600 gold each, or something where they cant reach that far, or long cd on stuns. its bull shit how u can run into a tier 4 base np, but get raped in a simple base full of frost towers.
cannons cant ur feed.
fix cooldown on 75k ring. why the fuck do u have to wait 1 hour on something u worked so hard for? and most likely already faught off a bunch of OP shit, with low tier.
stampede is weak as FUCK.
newts are OP and should be transmuted.
bigger rats.
bigger map. we need to be able to send at enemy without getting raped on the way in.
a perfect game would be where mostly everyone teched and used an army. the best games are the ones where theirs alot of action in the middle of the map : P do me a favor and get a build like command/trushot/roots/transmute and look how fucking fun it is. (have str hero) and tech NE.
also make base pet stay in base after mass. or decrease the evasion, its hard as fuck to kill, and ppl should be disciplined for taking it out of base.
my ideas once again for next version................POOL OFF 100%
I think pool off as the main mode would be dumb.. the game is a team game and the balanced is based around the ability to pool. I can make it cost less win to turn the pooling off or make it also a 5 vote mini mode so you dont have to be red in order to initiate it. thats it..
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need a way to hurt ppl that just stick with 1 AOE hero all game, and dont upgrade base....like less gold per kill.
this is the one idea thats ok and kinda do-able but i'll have to mod it and make it so units that kill units will get a bit more gold, cant limit the gold made by ppl using spells though.
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also need to do something with frost towers...either 600 gold each, or something where they cant reach that far, or long cd on stuns. its bull shit how u can run into a tier 4 base np, but get raped in a simple base full of frost towers.
frost towers are fine. they are the one thing in the game that makes it so it cant be a total OP hero arena game. When you tech and come in with mass units frost towers do hardly anything. plus there is plenty of ways to counter or avoid the towers. Ally team worth with staff of saving, divine pot, speed scroll, blink, ww get aways.. etc.. so no.
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cannons cant ur feed.
cannons not being able to kill feed has been talked about before and would be interesting as in making he game over faster for ppl that either teched or went all aoe's because of endless easy gold. Over all bad idea it would wreck the games balance.. on every level. so no.
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fix cooldown on 75k ring. why the fuck do u have to wait 1 hour on something u worked so hard for? and most likely already faught off a bunch of OP shit, with low tier.
cd for 75k ring is 1 hour and fine. if u got 75k before 1 hour you abused donation to a sickening level and next version donation wont be so broke anyway so it wont be an issue regardless. so no.
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stampede is weak as FUK.
stampede could maybe stand to be buffed would have to check stats
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newts are OP and should be transmuted.
newts can be OP and im nerfing them in a different way, idk if they should be xmute-able or not tho... maybe at best only xmute-able at lvl 11 or 16?
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bigger rats.
rats are fine, aoes already f them up, they dont need to be super easy to find and target as well..
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bigger map. we need to be able to send at enemy without getting raped on the way in.
map size is plenty big for normal games, i cant even count the ways you can get an army across the map unseen. inviz zep, mass tp, amy of recall, making all units inviz, or just using a speed scroll to get them there faster than other teams can react. making the map bigger wouldnt make any of those strats better in anyway. Also there is -RMV which removes middle vision and that would solve your complaint.
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a perfect game would be where mostly everyone teched and used an army. the best games are the ones where theirs alot of action in the middle of the map : P do me a favor and get a build like command/trushot/roots/transmute and look how fucking fun it is. (have str hero) and tech NE.
yea that is probably the funnest games, but not always everyones play style. Play 10k mode with pooling off its that kinda 'fun game' almost every time.
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also make base pet stay in base after mass. or decrease the evasion, its hard as fuck to kill, and ppl should be disciplined for taking it out of base.
i hear the death nose all the time, its very kill-able. plus its much easier to kill outside of their base so if you want to cripple a team thats your best chance when its outside the base.
If there was one thing i hope to gain from this its that masta becomes smarter or this makes him think twice so i dont have to waste my time explaining such things again.
a perfect game would be where mostly everyone teched and used an army. the best games are the ones where theirs alot of action in the middle of the map.
It's true,i agree with you.
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Play 10k mode with pooling off its that kinda 'fun game' almost every time.
newts can be OP and im nerfing them in a different way, idk if they should be xmute-able or not tho... maybe at best only xmute-able at lvl 11 or 16?
Please nerf xmute. It's so freaking op. (notice I'm saying NERF xmute, NOT newts. Newts are good enough the way they are) Seriously, when's the last game in which at least 1 player did not get this spell? Transmute is freaking overpowered. The timing, the amount of gold, is TOO overpowered NERF por favor. NERF
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Play 10k mode with pooling off its that kinda 'fun game' almost every time.
Why won't you be kind to us to LIST all the possible modes at start? Seriously, I don't even know have the modes now. -sheep, -zombie, etc. WHO CAN EVEN USE IT? There's too many modes -.-
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frost towers are fine. they are the one thing in the game that makes it so it cant be a total OP hero arena game. When you tech and come in with mass units frost towers do hardly anything. plus there is plenty of ways to counter or avoid the towers. Ally team worth with staff of saving, divine pot, speed scroll, blink, ww get aways.. etc.. so no.
Most bs I ever heard from Bond. "frost towers are fine." Oh yesssss, they fine. Oh yesssss And that's why arcane tower is WEAKER than frost tower in ssd. I wonder HOW 1.1k tower < 300 tower I think Bond might be taking drugs. The truth is, FROST TOWER IS OVERPOWERED FOR ITS PRICE
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cd for 75k ring is 1 hour and fine. if u got 75k before 1 hour you abused donation to a sickening level and next version donation wont be so broke anyway so it wont be an issue regardless. so no.
Bullsh1t. 1 hour is WAY too much. Seriously, you think were are rocks? Freaking remove the time limit all together. I highly doubt you can even make 75k in the first 10 min so why not just freaking let the user buy moment it comes to stock? For some player to save 75k in an hour, that player would have to be 1. Donation 2. Tier 0 in 100% vulnerable state saving scraps and crap
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rats are fine, aoes already f them up, they dont need to be super easy to find and target as well..
Rats are not fine. They can't be clicked. F that. It's not that rats are balanced but that AOE IS FREAKING OVERPOWERED
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I think pool off as the main mode would be dumb.. the game is a team game and the balanced is based around the ability to pool. I can make it cost less win to turn the pooling off or make it also a 5 vote mini mode so you dont have to be red in order to initiate it. thats it..
This mode is dumb. Just remove it. No point. Never gonna happen
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stampede could maybe stand to be buffed would have to check stats
I'm willing to see the day when ALMOST ALL SPELLS THAT REQUIRE HERO TO CAMP IN 1 SPOT GET SOME BUFF like ragining storm and cosmic bs and all that other crap. Seriously, all of these are worse than death pact. (didn't even know that was possible)
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also make base pet stay in base after mass.
This stupid pet moving around is THE reason why we have AOE/hk abuse problem. JUST FREAKING: 1. Make sure the pet can't leave your freaking base 2. Make the middle vault give LESS mana per second 3. Increase mana and health potions to 215 and 200 respectively 4. Mana items should all get +100 gold up on EACH
And oh yea, WHAT'S THE POINT OF SKELETAL MAGES? FEED? I WOULD TAKE ARCHERS ANY DAY. SAME POINT WITH GHOULS
Point is: Bond can't balance. No wonder his own freaking hero is the most overpowered unit in game. And then there's the antimagic level 6 problem. SUMMONING STONE LEVEL 6 HAS UNLIMITED ANTIMAGIC WITH NO CD. HOW COME ANTIMAGIC LEVEL 6 DONT HAVE THAT? WHATS THE POINT OF LEVEL 6 ANTIMAGIC?
Message edited by RosarioVampireZ - Saturday, 09-Nov-2013, 7:19 AM
Newts are made for techers to counter mass aoe or another techers. There is NO POINT TO GET NEWTS IF THEY ARE XMUTABLE AT LVL 11 OR 16. Just nerf their magic resistance by 1,5 or 1,75 (=magic resistance / 1,5 or 1,75). They shouldn't be too weak because newts are made to be used in middle map but not too strong. So just test it with 1,5 and 1,75.
Then asked long time ago to nerf the CD of transmute and it's has been done last week.
Now we are just repeating what has been said before...
Added (2013-11-09, 10:02 AM) --------------------------------------------- Oh and no need CD for the 75 k ring. It's kinda useless. There is a natural CD called 75K
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the ring is stupid, if u have 75K, u should have ended game already... most people that get ring just get it to use a hero at end and rape everything, its stupid tbh and op as shit. i;ve gotten in a ring fight with someone, fortunately i had mirrors and bought a soldier mask(that bash bro, taht bash) and used my units to bk him.
remove coil from shamans or add a creep with holy ligh healing the same amount. http://chf.ucoz.com/forum/71-3499-61942-16-1396993348
I agree bob newt is very OP and need nerf... i posted my ideas about bob newt on forum maybe 2 months ago but i cant find it right now....
1) you can transmute bob newt
2) you can not buy more than 2 newts (same like with mana dragon)
3) remove resistant skin (this is really OP shit i was testing spells on newt yesterday.... storm bolt give to normal units 850 dmg and cold strike 900 dmg but if you use one of this spells on newt he lose only 200 HP.... if you use banish + storm bolt or cold strike level 6 you still cant kill this OP shit called bob newt and he is only 800 hp)
4) bob newt cost 800 gold or more
5) bob newt in creep shop same CD like demolisher
etc............
just realize one of these ideas... i think best idea is just "you cant buy more than 2 newts" same like now with mana dragons... i saw many times ic3dt3a or Roystom get 5 or more newts and it really ruin game.... some people said ultimate spell druids is OP and they want lower HP for easy dispel but too many newts dispel druids in 2 seconds and best player Warcraft 3 in the world have no chance cyclone 5 or more newts + perma stunning hero with firebolt at same moment
Added (2013-11-09, 2:23 PM) --------------------------------------------- and transmute really is not OP spell... its maybe "OP" only if you xmute jammy (but everybody buy power of priest) and its good vs darks
I agree bob newt is very OP and need nerf... i posted my ideas about bob newt on forum maybe 2 months ago but i cant find it right now....
1) you can transmute bob newt
2) you can not buy more than 2 newts (same like with mana dragon)
3) remove resistant skin (this is really OP shit i was testing spells on newt yesterday.... storm bolt give to normal units 850 dmg and cold strike 900 dmg but if you use one of this spells on newt he lose only 200 HP.... if you use banish + storm bolt or cold strike level 6 you still cant kill this OP shit called bob newt and he is only 800 hp)
4) bob newt cost 800 gold or more
5) bob newt in creep shop same CD like demolisher
etc............
just realize one of these ideas... i think best idea is just "you cant buy more than 2 newts" same like now with mana dragons... i saw many times ic3dt3a or Roystom get 5 or more newts and it really ruin game.... some people said ultimate spell druids is OP and they want lower HP for easy dispel but too many newts dispel druids in 2 seconds and best player Warcraft 3 in the world have no chance cyclone 5 or more newts + perma stunning hero with firebolt at same moment
i have no problem with newts being nerfed, as long as fucking druids are nerfed, lower hp like every1 asked... http://chf.ucoz.com/forum/71-3499-61942-16-1396993348
Druids not OP... its true 1 jammy priest dont have enough mana for dispel them, but Joza dispel them very easy... and druids is very easy counter... just need ally with staff saving (only 700 gold very OP item) or just need in base peasant with recall amulet... if you are attacked by druids use recall (same like mindrape) death tower is stronger, mindrape too more OP than druids.
you're the only one that really has a problem with newts, reason is that they dispel the shit out of ur druids. however, they are 375 a piece. i'm sure you can do math and you should be able to realize that the many newts i carry to rape ur druids is pretty costly... just to prevent from giving a kill(ank of reincarnation is cheaper).
bond, split newts into 2 types:
bob the newt net, spell resistance, transmute
cou the cat dispel, no spell resistance, not transmutable
I'm willing to see the day when ALMOST ALL SPELLS THAT REQUIRE HERO TO CAMP IN 1 SPOT GET SOME BUFF like ragining storm and cosmic bs and all that other crap. Seriously, all of these are worse than death pact. (didn't even know that was possible
you;re kidding right? channeling spells were made that way to be balanced... their mana requirements + their damage+ hero stats+ instant or channeling
don;t tell me u want fucking blizzard to be buffed also? http://chf.ucoz.com/forum/71-3499-61942-16-1396993348
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