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New ELO system (idea by Adam_CZ)
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| Adam_CZ | Date: Wednesday, 30-Apr-2014, 10:26 AM | Message # 1 |
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| I have very easy solution how to make ELO system ballance and fair. If you will realize my idea people will stop abuse swap players like edu.reme, rogerlucas, princess88 or they will stop make fake accounts and losing games on purpose.
My idea is VERY easy:
If you will win game you will get +1 elo (and its not important who was your ally - Cou, FTL Roystom, JST4X or rogerlucas, edu.reme, princess88).
If you will lose game you will lose -1 elo (and again its not important if you lose vs Cou, FTL Roystom, JST4X or rogerlucas, edu.reme, princess88).
For example if you will playing soccer/football and you wil win you will get +3 (and its not important if you won vs Real Mardir, FC Liverpool, Manchester United or if you won vs some team from 3th amateur league) EVERYTIME in football you have +3 for win match.
If you are playing Ice Hockey and you win you get EVERYTIME +2 (even if you win vs top team NHL or if you win just vs amateurs).
And how it will be working? There is few examples:
BajsHoran total games 3149 (wins: 2166 and loses: 983) so 2166 - 983 = 1183 ELO
Adam_CZ total games 732 (wins: 641 and loses: 91) so 641 - 91 = 550 ELO
AccCreate total games 296 (wins: 153 and loses: 143) so 153 - 143 = 10 ELO
Rogerlucas total games 3092 (wins: 763 and loses: 2329) so 763 - 2329 = (-1560) ELO
Trust me this is the best idea how to make this system ballance and fair.Added (30-Apr-2014, 10:26 AM)
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I still remember for example this game where APF Walter lose vs stacked team MrDarkDevil, Gigasus and Frungy (they all were under my -500 accounts) and he said he lose like 100 ELO in that game. If you will realize my idea so sh*ts like this will not happen anymore.
Message edited by Adam_CZ - Wednesday, 30-Apr-2014, 10:19 AM |
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| gigasus91 | Date: Wednesday, 30-Apr-2014, 10:31 AM | Message # 2 |
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| Quote Adam_CZ (  ) I still remember for example this game where APF Walter lose vs stacked team MrDarkDevil, Gigasus and Frungy (they all were under my -500 accounts) and he said he lose like 100 ELO in that game. If you will realize my idea so sh*ts like this will not happen anymore.
bullshit again , i gained 30 elo that game , how could he lose 100 elo ? lol
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| RosarioVampireZ | Date: Wednesday, 30-Apr-2014, 10:35 AM | Message # 3 |
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| IDK but i like this better:
1. Admins are ALL removed from ranking system. Their win loss ratio should stay with their "points" but they shouldn't be 'ranked'
2. Winning gives 1 points. Losing gives 0.5 points. (Game must be at least 15 minute)
By letting you get points from either winning or losing, it defeats the purpose of stacking and thus discourages stacking ( a little).
Plus, a game played is an experience earned by the player. I rather have someone with 100 wins 200 loss than 30 wins 21 loss.
(experience = points -just think business style. Each year, you get an additional % salary for POSSIBLE experience-)
Also, by making game at LEAST 15 min to get ELO, it discourages quick enter and leave game.
(I mean if you win game in 10 min, grat! U just wont get ELO and u shuld know that. Luckily, by making this take place, nubs will actually have a chance to play a decent long game (above 15 min...lol) instead of dying right after mass))
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| O_o]-PrincipV | Date: Wednesday, 30-Apr-2014, 10:41 AM | Message # 4 |
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| sorry buddy but we only want the 4.1  ELO isn't important
Call Me Messi I was The ex Best Player
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| Adam_CZ | Date: Wednesday, 30-Apr-2014, 10:47 AM | Message # 5 |
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| Quote gigasus91 ( ) bullshit again , i gained 30 elo that game , how could he lose 100 elo ? lol
Are you talking about this game: http://playchf.tk/game/122823/ ? There was another game (maybe you were not in and it was me) Maxas + Mishailu + Pablera but i dont remember that good. It was 3x fake elo account.
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| [-FTL-]RoyStoM | Date: Wednesday, 30-Apr-2014, 11:26 AM | Message # 6 |
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| idea system elo fix is :
1.- reset elo for all in 4.1
2.- elo win +3 points pros/nob
3.- elo lose -2 points pros/nob
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| Adam_CZ | Date: Wednesday, 30-Apr-2014, 11:43 AM | Message # 7 |
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| I can agree with Roystom idea too... you will get +3 everytime if you win and its not important who was your ally or who was your enemy. Simple and fair.
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| lspiderl | Date: Wednesday, 30-Apr-2014, 11:54 AM | Message # 8 |
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| best idea of all don't give ANYONE admin then it cant be abused 
I suffer from a condition called dislexix disgraphia so please parden my spelling and typographical errors
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| Adam_CZ | Date: Wednesday, 30-Apr-2014, 1:39 PM | Message # 9 |
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| Roystom just swapped Rogerlucas in his team (he wanted boost elo) but when game started he realized its BajsHoran under rogers account. Just read chat log i was laughing hard: http://playchf.tk/game/131368/
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| Priest-Of-Sin | Date: Wednesday, 30-Apr-2014, 3:03 PM | Message # 10 |
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| RosarioVampireZ, i like your idea better...i mean this game should be fun, winning or losing you will learn eventually something about this game.
gz for this idea Rosa
IM NOT TOTALLY USELESS.....I CAN BE USED AS A BAD EXAMPLE
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| BajsHoran | Date: Wednesday, 30-Apr-2014, 3:24 PM | Message # 11 |
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| Quote Adam_CZ ( ) Roystom just swapped Rogerlucas in his team (he wanted boost elo) but when game started he realized its BajsHoran under rogers account. Just read chat log i was laughing hard: http://playchf.tk/game/131368/
Roger was carrying theese pubs pretty hard to
Green Man - im so jeallous of ur elo
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| AL_GI | Date: Wednesday, 30-Apr-2014, 4:21 PM | Message # 12 |
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| Your idea is stupid and encourage stack lol
Call me "GOD”
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| Adam_CZ | Date: Wednesday, 30-Apr-2014, 4:34 PM | Message # 13 |
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| This idea is not stupid because people wil not abuse that stupid elo system anymore (making alts with low elo and losing games on purpose) because in my elo system is not important who is your ally or your enemy.
Message edited by Adam_CZ - Wednesday, 30-Apr-2014, 4:34 PM |
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| AL_GI | Date: Wednesday, 30-Apr-2014, 4:58 PM | Message # 14 |
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| Yes it is, because in your elo system the goal is to get the most wins, so this will encourage stack ..
Call me "GOD”
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| RosarioVampireZ | Date: Wednesday, 30-Apr-2014, 5:39 PM | Message # 15 |
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| Quote Priest-Of-Sin ( ) RosarioVampireZ, i like your idea better...i mean this game should be fun, winning or losing you will learn eventually something about this game.
Every year, regardless of your "pro-ness", you get 2-3% additional salary for the EXPERIENCE
So my concept was ...
It's good to have lots of knowledge 
You get inspired from it and create better theories xDDD
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