You can't prove it wrong. You also can't prove that he was just a prophet. Even to that extent, you can't prove that he was a prophet at all, or anything more than a teacher with great values. Do you claim to be wiser than Descartes? than Aquinas? than Augustine? than Kant? than Dostoevsky?
Or from the atheistic perspective, wherein philosophers have been unable to repudiate that Jesus was the Son of God, are you greater than Hobbes? than Sartre? than Russell? than Nietzsche?
If you indeed do claim to be, then I submit my feeble mind to you. Apologies.
It is a long-accepted common stance that the concept of God is, effectually, impossible to both prove and disprove. The nature of this concept, of an immaterial, omniscient, omnipotent being that works outside the accepted laws of nature (these being gravity, electromagnetism, thermodynamics, chaos theory, etc.) is such that it is not only unfathomable but also futile to attempt to fathom it. Since God cannot be proved or disproved, faith becomes the dividing line.
Faith can be viewed as a certainty in something which one cannot prove to be true. Both theists and atheists display faith, one way or another, in the way that they live their lives and devote their time. The devout individual will live their life in anticipation of an afterlife, while the atheist will be certain that there is no afterlife, and not worry about immaterial consequences.
The point is, I have many atheistic friends, while I myself am a Christian. I do not judge them based on their atheism; in fact, I relish the perspective and the way that this faith defines their personality.
So Mb, what you're saying is that you're agnostic? not atheistic?
Kind of in between I guess. How I have previously classified myself: Christian -> Atheist -> Agnostic -> Athiest I'm not sure I fully understand the difference =P
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God created the universe. God created humans.
There is an afterlife.
Living beings have souls.
Heaven exists.
Hell exists.
Reincarnation exists.
Why do you think so?
LttileB, shut up, the grown ups are trying to talk.
Debating is not the same thing as fighting/flaming.
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No problem, haha An agnostic is someone who has concluded that they don't know whether or not there is a God; an atheist is someone who is certain that there is no God. Christians believe that God sent Christ to die for their sins, and that He is the only way to Heaven.
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who cares......... if u were reading, mb said why u believe that god exists not why other people r wrong in their beliefs. im ATHEIST BTW sig in construction
Message edited by lolblade - Thursday, 14-Apr-2011, 5:46 PM
B you realy dont understand the differnce between a fight and a debate i can for example have a long intense discusion of opposing views with say cheesy ( just random example) but there be 0 personal attacks only intense debate and point and counterpoint and reguardless of weather or not anyone changes there mind or simply agrees to disagree theres no fight its called a DEBATE its only fighting when people make it personal I suffer from a condition called dislexix disgraphia so please parden my spelling and typographical errors
i dont see anyone fighting lol, sharing different views aint the same as arguing with the others b. and if anyone is picking on a fight in here clearly needs to grow up.
An agnostic is someone who has concluded that they don't know whether or not there is a God; an atheist is someone who is certain that there is no God. Christians believe that God sent Christ to die for their sins, and that He is the only way to Heaven.
Thats what I thought. I believe no one can be certain whether or not there is a God. So agnostic is better.
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its too bad this thread got flooded with a bunch of useless posts, it could have been good.
Agree.
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the only fighting is coming from you b
This. I don't see anyone angry but you (for no reason). Thanks to xXHarDCorEXx/bop240 for making my signature ^^
