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DragonWarriorDate: Monday, 04-Jul-2011, 11:54 AM | Message # 1
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So, I recently started practicing goleming, and I noticed that my most efficient build was:
Rain of Fire
Roots
Lasso
Avatars of Vengeance
And no, I didn't forget about unholy/endurance, but I think that rain of fire is more useful. You can also buy a Unholy Frenzy (mehh... what's it called?) Aura. Rain of Fire is extremely useful in killing units from other teams during mass. It is also a great skill to use in killing an other team's feed.
Anyways, right to the point. I don't see many people use Avatars of Vengeance much, but to me (and Nobrain), they are extremely good at almost everything. If you can stun a hero, they can hk easily. If you want to bk, your invulnerable vengeance spirits are good for the job. If you want to uk, lvl 2 and lvl 3 Avatar of vengeances spawn lots of vengeance spirits to uk for you. I mean sure, chimeras are good too, but I think that vengeances are more useful. cheesy you h34r dis?
My way of hking is to use roots first, because if you use lasso first, the hero can use wind walk and you cant see them. However, if you use roots first, you can see the hero even if they use wind walk. Then you use rain of fire/lasso. Lasso doesn't let the heroes escape, but rain of fire deals more damage. I'd say if you have golems and newts to stun the hero, you dont need to use lasso. If you don't, i'd suggest using lasso instead

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Skills that still need buffing for 3.7b/3.8:
Hedgehogs, Pigs (w/e they're called they are those summons that shoot out arrows ;p)
Bladestorm (I think its been nerfed too much, its barely useful anymore)
Frost Armor (-.-)
Thorns Aura (Make it deal more damage back at people)
Spiked Carapace (It'd be nice if more people used it for mauling)

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I was playing Pimp my Peon recently with killerbeans, and there was a orc that could kill anything (meant for saving your base, not bking) that had a set living time of 10 seconds. I know we have a rune to make our bases invulnerable, but it'd be nice if we could have a unit called SUPER PEASANT (Harrumph, sounds lame) that lives for 10 seconds and can kill all the feed in your base in one hit (Yes, even darks). Make a barrier that disallows the super peasant from leaving your base. It should cost around 5000 gold (whatever you guys vote on) and only have one charge (meaning it could only be used once in a game).

Sorry for the long thread, I know people like CHINESE (*cough, cough*) will hate it cool
I posted this in Game Strategy even though it has suggestions in it. But i mainly meant it to be game strategy

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Oh yeah, and Kobas, is it possible if you can take off the security code thing when you give people reps or sending pms? Some of them are impossible to decipher. And it takes hella long time to switch it to something you can actually decipher.

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Message edited by DragonWarrior - Monday, 04-Jul-2011, 12:59 PM
 
PaPaDate: Monday, 04-Jul-2011, 12:08 PM | Message # 2
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1 Take either roots or lasso.. dont take both of them. Use unholy instead as it heals your units/golems as well.
2 Spiked Carapace returns, if I recall correctly, 225% damage, a melee mauler wont be able to kill you with that. And its more used for tanks, cus the units kill themselves if they attack the hero.
3 Actually a good idea, but it shouldnt be able to kill pengs if it only costs 5k. It should cost more than twice the amount...




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AChineseKidDate: Monday, 04-Jul-2011, 12:23 PM | Message # 3
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i actually like those ideas and yea roots and fire are very good if i were you i wouldnt get roots and lasso i would just choose one

and spiked is already op and bond needs to change all the setbuild heros like sai neeed there spiked carpace to do 225% same with fat ass

i like 3 its like in custom hero siege when that one guy comes and saves you
 
LittleBDate: Monday, 04-Jul-2011, 12:32 PM | Message # 4
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roots and firestorm can work so effectivly alone, get roots, unholy, firestorm, get endurance aura item asap, and u hk like crazy, up rotos and firestorm, roots firestorm , done, firestorm is amazingly op
 
Cheesy-GordiaDate: Monday, 04-Jul-2011, 12:36 PM | Message # 5
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Firestorm isnt that op since it has same mechanics as rockets and carrion.

The more units it hits, the less damage it'll do overall.

And if vengeances are more useful, how come im not using it?




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LittleBDate: Monday, 04-Jul-2011, 12:37 PM | Message # 6
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wait are u talking about the same spell?

im talking about Rain of fire that when lvl 6 can pwn a lvl 20 hero in 4 hits, kinda like blizzard but small area but super op
 
Cheesy-GordiaDate: Monday, 04-Jul-2011, 12:39 PM | Message # 7
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Ohhhh RAAAAIN OF FIRE You said firestorm :p.

Rain of fire is strong as hell, but blizzards just mch more efficient.




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LittleBDate: Monday, 04-Jul-2011, 12:44 PM | Message # 8
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not against heros, and rain of fire is best skill for mass since once it finishs at lvl 1 it took 1/4 of the units hp and doesnt atk friend
 
DragonWarriorDate: Monday, 04-Jul-2011, 12:56 PM | Message # 9
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Actually a good idea, but it shouldnt be able to kill pengs if it only costs 5k. It should cost more than twice the amount...

But it's meant for base saving, if it costs 30k, nobody will ever buy it. If it costs 30k, then it'd be more efficient if you let the peasant out of the base

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And not many people would know if you were aiming to peng people. If you have 5k at the moment, well, let's just say you were lucky^^
And I was thinking that it could be meant for FTD too. The last level can only be killed by Arthas's ultimate and pengs. If you have a super peasant, it'd help too



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Message edited by DragonWarrior - Monday, 04-Jul-2011, 12:57 PM
 
AChineseKidDate: Monday, 04-Jul-2011, 1:10 PM | Message # 10
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30k? 5k doubled is not 30 buddy its 10k
 
NoBrainDate: Monday, 04-Jul-2011, 1:19 PM | Message # 11
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And if vengeances are more useful, how come im not using it?


Because I do it for you.



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DragonWarriorDate: Monday, 04-Jul-2011, 1:50 PM | Message # 12
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30k? 5k doubled is not 30 buddy its 10k

Oh, i thought he meant twice 15k (pengs price)



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xMoNsTeRRRDate: Monday, 04-Jul-2011, 7:31 PM | Message # 13
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Because I do it for you.


Wordddd same hereee


this account is currently being shared by xmonsterrr and cyray. if i say something nice, its probably cyray so please disregard it.
 
LadyInYellowDate: Monday, 04-Jul-2011, 8:40 PM | Message # 14
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Lol..doing for someone else..
Anyway i have a question
how much dmg doezls firestorm llvl6 acrltually hit?
They dont tell u in spell place
 
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