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SOUNDWAVESDate: Sunday, 09-Sep-2012, 0:08 AM | Message # 1
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HUH?

I SUPPORT MOST OF HELEKILLERS SUGGESTION.

PLUS

SLEEP : ADD DPS

HOWL OF TERROR : IGNORE IMMUNITY

BOLT, COIL, NOVA, SWARM, SHOCKWAVE, FOLK, CHAIN LIGHT, ROOTS, LASSO : NERF - NO SKILL SPELLS WHICH MAKE DICK HEAD TO GOD LIKE.

WARP PORTAL : WTF IS THIS? - INSTEAD REMOVE IT AND ADD STAR GATE.

IMMOLATION, ZOZ : WTF IS THIS? 2 - AT LEAST IT CAN BE USEFUL IF IT'S DP3S.

COMMAND AURA : NO MORE BUFF FOR RANGE TYPE UNIT

FORCE FIELD : NO DIVINE TO CASTER, INSTEAD MAGIC IMMUNE OR ARMOR BUFF.

BIG BAD VOODOO : REDUCE CD, HALF THAN CURRENT CD

BUFF EVERY CHANNELING ULTIMATE. ACTUALLY EVERY CHANNELING ULTIMATES ARE SHIT. I DONT CARE ABOUT SSD, FTD.

BUFF SPEED BUILT CANNON AND ARCANE : IT ALREADY PAID FOR FAST BUILDING. WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE WEAKER THAN NORMAL ONE?

DOWNGRADING TOWER WITHOUT REWARD IS THE WORST SYSTEM IN THIS GAME.

MAKE SKILL SELLABLE WHILE HERO IS IN SKILL SHOP. I SAW WHY BOND DIDNT PUT THIS SYSTEM BUT IT'S MEANINGLESS TO COUNTLESS MAP HACKERS
SUCH AS XPAKI DICKYGORDIA CYRAY PRINCIPE AND SO ON

BUFF UNIT EXP 2X MORE OR 20 XP FOR MASTER RANK.

REWARD MONEY AT EVERY MIN FOR EACH TIER EXCEPT TIER 0 and 5

TIER1 : ALL DIFFERENT ARMOR AND ATTACK TYPE. REDUCE GOLD FOR EACH TIER.

TIER3, 4 : SLIGHTLY BUFF ARMORS TO EVERY RACE EXCEPT T4 TAUREN.

MAKE SKILL REFUNDABLE.

ADD PAYBACK MONEY

3X MORE REWARD GOLD TO KILL STREAK BREAKER.

I WILL PUT SOME MORE IDEAS SOON.

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Rest in Peace Rookies


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FireHartDate: Sunday, 09-Sep-2012, 0:45 AM | Message # 2
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Add gold on hks for streak like; 3kills 280g, 4kills 290g
 
FirNesSDate: Sunday, 09-Sep-2012, 1:52 AM | Message # 3
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There's obviously something to do about streak yeah, currently having a streak isn't really interesting when you check your gold, and neither is breaking a streak.
Make additionnal gold for each kill of a streak, like +50 or +100 gold each streak. Or maybe gold could increase with long streaks. Like +20 gold for "double kill", +40 for "triple", +70 for "mega", etc, and +100 each "Holy sh*t".

Then breaking a streak should give ofc the money of the hero, plus half of the money the dead man earned thanks to his streak.
I mean not the money he earned with heroes, only the + he earned with several kills.

Anyway idk if what I'm saying is clear, I hope so, because I'm never using "+" and numbers in english, so my sentences may be wrong gramaticaly. Sorry 'bout that.


 
mN-Date: Sunday, 09-Sep-2012, 3:04 AM | Message # 4
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Rewarding kill streak is stupid. U already get gold and xp and give enemy hero a ress timer while u can go feed in his base. Kill streak reward is just gonna make the game more boring ww bolt coil banish. Imo the bigger your killing streak is the less money you should get to promote uk killing more/ use of units.
And units should be immune to your own damage (cannon, magic etc). Its not a skill to kill low tier units with a cannon its a must... This is custom hero footmen frenzy but the footmen dont have a frenzy. ;@


I am biwinning

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SOUNDWAVESDate: Sunday, 09-Sep-2012, 3:52 AM | Message # 5
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Quote (mN-)
Rewarding kill streak is stupid

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Rewarding kill streak is stupid. U already get gold and xp and give enemy hero a ress timer while u can go feed in his base. Kill streak reward is just gonna make the game more boring ww bolt coil banish. Imo the bigger your killing streak is the less money you should get to promote uk killing more/ use of units.
And units should be immune to your own damage (cannon, magic etc). Its not a skill to kill low tier units with a cannon its a must... This is custom hero footmen frenzy but the footmen dont have a frenzy. ;@


That's right.




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FirNesSDate: Sunday, 09-Sep-2012, 4:06 AM | Message # 6
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Rewarding kill streak is stupid. U already get gold and xp and give enemy hero a ress timer while u can go feed in his base. Kill streak reward is just gonna make the game more boring ww bolt coil banish.

Somehow that's right.
But that's only right against "noobs".
Maybe could we make a new "mode" (that would be a vote like -nwd or -uim) that would give additional gold for streaks, for people who're playing a full "pros" game.
Anyway it's not something SO important, was just an idea. And as I'm not playing chf anymore atm (I may play again someday), I'm not really concerned.


 
FireHartDate: Sunday, 09-Sep-2012, 4:16 AM | Message # 7
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Now we all know that banish is op, bring the extra dmg down from +100% to +50%

 
SOUNDWAVESDate: Sunday, 09-Sep-2012, 4:20 AM | Message # 8
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Now we all know that banish is op, bring the extra dmg down from +100% to +50%


I HEARD THAT BANISH IS ONLY 30%

IT'S NOT THE MATTER OF BANISH. THE PROBLEM IS SPELLS ARE TOO OP




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FireHartDate: Sunday, 09-Sep-2012, 4:30 AM | Message # 9
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IT'S NOT THE MATTER OF BANISH. THE PROBLEM IS SPELLS ARE TOO OP


I agree; take life drain 1760dmg is way to much. life drain+roots = kill


 
FirNesSDate: Sunday, 09-Sep-2012, 5:42 AM | Message # 10
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I agree; take life drain 1760dmg is way to much. life drain+roots = kill

I don't agree with that. Any TP or potion can save you, since you're not stunned. Also, you can still kill the caster with anything, can be single targets / aoes as teching or creeping.

Then Sound said few good ideas since he edited his first post. I'll comment more later.

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I SUPPORT MOST OF HELEKILLERS SUGGESTION.

Which?
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SLEEP : ADD DPS

I don't agree. Sleep is already good. Maybe we can just buff duration levels 4 - 5 - 6.
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HOWL OF TERROR : IGNORE IMMUNITY

Agreed
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BOLT, COIL, NOVA, SWARM, SHOCKWAVE, FOLK, CHAIN LIGHT, ROOTS, LASSO : NERF - NO SKILL SPELLS WHICH MAKE DICK HEAD TO GOD LIKE.

Somehow, I agree with that. Why? You can all admit that these skills are the most used by far. Why? Bcause they're just better than others. For roots and lasso, just nerf lvls 1 - 2 - 3, so people who will get them will up them, not just keep lvl one.
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COMMAND AURA : NO MORE BUFF FOR RANGE TYPE UNIT

Agreed. Or at least make half of command's power for ranged units, and buff like 10% each level for melee units.
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FORCE FIELD : NO DIVINE TO CASTER, INSTEAD MAGIC IMMUNE OR ARMOR BUFF.

Magic immune seems good
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BIG BAD VOODOO : REDUCE CD, HALF THAN CURRENT CD

I agree, but well no one uses this
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BUFF SPEED BUILT CANNON AND ARCANE : IT ALREADY PAID FOR FAST BUILDING. WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE WEAKER THAN NORMAL ONE?

Agreed
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DOWNGRADING TOWER WITHOUT REWARD IS THE WORST SYSTEM IN THIS GAME.

Ya, we should get like 75% of price
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MAKE SKILL SELLABLE WHILE HERO IS IN SKILL SHOP. I SAW WHY BOND DIDNT PUT THIS SYSTEM BUT IT'S MEANINGLESS TO COUNTLESS MAP HACKERS

Pretty usefull with early sharers
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BUFF UNIT EXP 2X MORE OR 20 XP FOR MASTER RANK.

100% agreed, currently unit xp sucks. This would encourage microing
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REWARD MONEY AT EVERY MIN FOR EACH TIER EXCEPT TIER 0 and 5

Lol why?
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TIER1 : ALL DIFFERENT ARMOR AND ATTACK TYPE.

Good idea, would encourage some "strategy" to counter things in game.
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REDUCE GOLD FOR EACH TIER.

I don't agree about that, it has already been reduced.
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TIER3, 4 : SLIGHTLY BUFF ARMORS TO EVERY RACE EXCEPT T4 TAUREN.

Agreed, except for aboms. They don't need armor, they need few more dmg.


 
FireHartDate: Sunday, 09-Sep-2012, 5:45 AM | Message # 11
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Give firbolt more range, dmg, or remove it because there is storm bolt there already

 
FirNesSDate: Sunday, 09-Sep-2012, 5:53 AM | Message # 12
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Also, a little minor idea:

Buff Flame strike's area and nerf a lil bit damage. People are now sometimes using it, but still not enough compared to Shockwave, bolt, etc. I tryed once Flamestrike / Roots / Banish. Try this with a intel hero that has a good casting time, and you'll rape. smile

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Give firbolt more range, dmg, or remove it because there is storm bolt there already

Lol? Is that a joke? Lvl 6, firebolt has like 2k range or even more, I don't remember. This spell is op as shit. People who use bolt instead are just idiots. If this skill has to be buffed, then it should just be about stun time, and it shall be just +0.5 sec, not more. Believe me, this spell is good.
However Bond, could you please change either Firebolt or Fan of knives' hotkey, can't use them together atm, and they're good somehow.

Talking about Fan of knives, make it able to kill more units. Atm dmg are good, but it can only touch like 8 or 10 units at lvl 6. WTF? Chain and forked can jump on 16 units and they're castable with more range, and they deal more dmg. What a joke.


 
FireHartDate: Sunday, 09-Sep-2012, 6:11 AM | Message # 13
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The AI is a joke! All ai techs, rly. they use ward of the gods in mid. the worst part is that they upg they atk and armor to often. its like u cant practice using infernal or dtower or bs. downgrade ai pls. (All on easy too)Try making AI mimic someone's playing style depending on hero.

Also make j33bus's stock delay smaller pls.

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FirNesS, no sry i don't recognise its potential

make ww like WOW stealth where if the guy is within 2yards he can be seen




Message edited by FireHart - Sunday, 09-Sep-2012, 8:43 AM
 
i-connectDate: Sunday, 09-Sep-2012, 11:09 AM | Message # 14
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3X MORE REWARD GOLD TO KILL STREAK BREAKER.

lets make hk more intresting add this and idk if this good idea but ever thought when you die you lose gold and it gives it other team? So if you get hero like captain bond and die you lose more gold?
 
FirNesSDate: Sunday, 09-Sep-2012, 11:23 AM | Message # 15
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FirNesS, no sry i don't recognise its potential

Try Firebolt / Blink / Fan of knives (but well in this case you have 2 "F" hotkeys), and if you play well, you'll pwn. Then against top 10 players it may not work ofc.


 
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