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t33vs1erDate: Tuesday, 28-Aug-2018, 9:30 AM | Message # 31
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For everyone's info: 

The bug that DC is not related to the bot itself, but to the game. I watched a CHF replay yesterday (i.e. offline) and it crashed. 

-Teevz

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I tried version 4.1 with Dooms. today. I really appreciate the work Bond is putting into this game. I also like the idea of new spells and ulti. I however will not play CHF 4.1. The reason being is due to these changes:

- Newts = 3 food
- Golem = 3 food

Etc...

Currently we see AOE and WW/DS every game. I like to play creeps. That is my playing style. Now this cannot be done without me stacking hardcore each game - which not only will be unfair to other players, but won't always be possible. 

Sure I can join the AOE bangwagon, but I really liked the micro part of footy. It is a strategy too.

With version 4.1 we will see only mass AOE... EACH and EVERY single game. 

Creeps imbalanced? Sure when you have 3 levels above everyone else as a result of a good rush, as well as tons of gold you do become imbalanced. 

But a succesful start would anyhow give you the gold to tome up (making you imba as well) or tech units up and kick bases. 

Having a good rush or mass will give you an advantage. It is not creeps that are imbalanced, but the players or the stacked teams. Most guys I have seen playing creeps and Golems do so when they stack. Stacking will give an advantage, no matter whether you nerf newts and Golems. They will tome up, team up on killing ennemy heros and pool for tech. The problem was never creeps... it was good players being really good (and we cannot blame them for that) or the fact that good players stacked.

Now, the only thing we have done is remove yet another playing style, that we actually see quite rarely these days (and that people have figured out how to counter).

I really do not like version 4.1 in its current state. I hate to say it. I know bond has put a lot of work in it and I appreciate that, but I cannot lie - version 4.1 demotivated me to play CHF in the future (if it is to come out looking like the beta version).

Best,
-TeeVz

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For clarification: In version 4.0 you could with some good early game spells save up gold and make some mercs without having pro allies. This will not be possible in 4.1. This may motivate players to stack more if they golem - it surely would motivate me to do so (which sucks for everyone involved).

 
i-connectDate: Wednesday, 05-Sep-2018, 0:54 AM | Message # 32
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Sup bond, I’m down to play 4.1 once you finally release it. I don’t even play chf anymore lmao
 
FirNesSDate: Wednesday, 05-Sep-2018, 4:24 AM | Message # 33
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the bot is down for now

 
Bond009Date: Sunday, 09-Sep-2018, 11:33 PM | Message # 34
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How are things going in CHF? i have been busy for a week or so but plan to get back into things again soon. Also kind of waiting for Blizzard to figure out their shit.. lol

Looks like things should be improving
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/bnet/topic/20768926757
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/bnet/topic/20767579541

Also we were able to get the bot going good again with the redirects too.


 
FirNesSDate: Monday, 10-Sep-2018, 4:11 AM | Message # 35
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Ty for the bot. I'll try this out, cuz before bot went down quite many games were crashing.

 
t33vs1erDate: Monday, 10-Sep-2018, 8:33 AM | Message # 36
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Also we were able to get the bot going good again with the redirects too.

Good stuff. I feel a second donation is around the corner smile
 
b3pDate: Monday, 10-Sep-2018, 9:11 AM | Message # 37
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I can give u free war3 if u want to come back play  biggrin

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t33vs1erDate: Monday, 10-Sep-2018, 5:03 PM | Message # 38
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Quote b3p ()
I can give u free war3 if u want to come back play
 
Hey. I actually was in your clan back then (ROD). Good times.
 
FirNesSDate: Tuesday, 11-Sep-2018, 5:30 AM | Message # 39
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Well. Bot works, but sometimes wc3 crashes... my mate just got dced and me too 10 mins later

 
ic3dt3aDate: Wednesday, 12-Sep-2018, 12:06 PM | Message # 40
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Quote t33vs1er ()
- Newts = 3 food- Golem = 3 food


i've not yet played the latest version but this was too much of a nerf, bond

to balance the newt, you could either split into 2 different types(not sure if anyone else used the dispel as much as i did) and make the net newt's armor be light or none.

lets take a look at what makes the golems good:

stun
chaos damage
building armor
magic resistance

removing 1 or 2 of these would balance them. you could either replace them with another minion with stun and magic resistance WITHOUT the building armor as this requires you to buy the turtle or lizards to eat them. its too pricey and a simple counter for the golems SHOULD be teching. what i used to do is select my skills depending on who i was playing against. for a hardcore golem player, serpent wards were really useful along with teching. the problem then(maybe still ongoing?) was ppl smurfing cause they were shitty players. BUT, a counter to a mercenary shouldnt have to be taken during skill selection, it should be available anytime. the easiest counter of course is teching, but due to the armor, this makes it much difficult and just makes the golems a good point to aoe as units will be attacking. ofcourse, t3-5 have no problems with these creeps, but by then it is too late.

edit: just played a quick one, why havent u removed death coil from shaman? this skill was put in SPECIFICALLY to counter halpmeh in wfe's version. it should have NEVER stayed in custom footies.


http://chf.ucoz.com/forum/71-3499-61942-16-1396993348

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Adam_CZDate: Thursday, 13-Sep-2018, 10:45 AM | Message # 41
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Where I can download 4.1?
 
FirNesSDate: Friday, 14-Sep-2018, 12:10 PM | Message # 42
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The bot is off again Bond, there's been a new wc3 update.

 
FirNesSDate: Saturday, 15-Sep-2018, 3:47 AM | Message # 43
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yeah fuck blizzard on that
work on wc4 instead of preventing us from playing u fools


 
l3etuceDate: Wednesday, 19-Sep-2018, 9:27 PM | Message # 44
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Quote Adam_CZ ()
Where I can download 4.1?

hahaha ! this the best question on this forum so far.   tongue


I love green leetuce
 
FirNesSDate: Saturday, 22-Sep-2018, 7:23 AM | Message # 45
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after "did chf became suck s?", don't forget your classics

 
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