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XXkillerbeansXXDate: Tuesday, 10-Apr-2012, 5:45 PM | Message # 1
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best replay i have of this. just watch the domination in this game(its vs pubs tho so not much to brag about).

build was wards ff interchange tich.
watch if u want to know more
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SecreT-Name-Date: Tuesday, 10-Apr-2012, 6:32 PM | Message # 2
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WTF ! :O
 
2DaYuDiEDate: Wednesday, 11-Apr-2012, 5:49 AM | Message # 3
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yes, block enemy heroes off with wards so they cant get out of the forcefield and swap other heroes in, replace tichmeh with a summon, best would be bears cuz of the insane dmg so u can actually kill them smile wards alone wont do enough, even with tichmeh

 
RosarioVampireZDate: Wednesday, 11-Apr-2012, 6:40 AM | Message # 4
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Isnt that the same strat used when u lost vid, u, respect vs me? cool

Too many flaws there... I saw replay
I COULDNT believe no one got cannon or TELEPORTED even once during the whole game

That build is a very RISKYbuild. It requires too much on feed and tome (u used 2 shockwave and 2 tomes to lvl). I suggest roots instead of interchange if ur using wards.
Also, if u wanted better hk, i woulda gone fire bolt, unholy, nova -shamans- or banish, nova, unholy

UR choice..build was sure creative wink wink
just dont interchange in inhouses cause everyone carries 100000000000 recalls.
(btw. if ur using interchange, try interchanging while using a newt. That way u can make them stuck in the spot till they die.
I had a time when i used to use interchange... i learnt that through experience, interchange can only work if ur lvl is HIGH
also, be careful where u interchange. There is actually an interchange glitch too. u interchange ppl from vault to near enemy base, the enemy AND u will end up in same spot surprised


 
a_chinese_kidDate: Wednesday, 11-Apr-2012, 10:39 AM | Message # 5
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haha i love forcefield i started experimenting with it when it first came out and i always glitch killed infernos etc. by pushing into walls and i believe it even worked on altar one time haha
 
RosarioVampireZDate: Wednesday, 11-Apr-2012, 11:02 AM | Message # 6
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Tried build myself.
Right away, I saw something... interchange is useless
change that to anything else like quilbeast (preferably not bears cause chaos dmg doesnt work with tizmeh at lvl 6) -it is still chaos...right?-

this is bcause since medivh has blink
u can use ff RIGHT after blinking nxt to hero and surrounding with wards. (and newt it at same time)

smile be happy! i helped ur build dry
but if i really was playing, i would not be getting quilz with that biggrin

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ff is very op. I think bond needs to remove the dmg it does
cause its so unnecessary
now NO ONE gets bladestorm

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I would take out interchange in inhouse game and get nova
but if u dont prefer nova..hmm get roots and keep it lvl 1 whole game

roots > interchange till lvl 6


 
XXkillerbeansXXDate: Wednesday, 11-Apr-2012, 4:11 PM | Message # 7
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u lost vid, u, respect

again dont call this a fair game. u had f.u.d for one(who isnt "rusty" so dont say he is). and vid dropped. would rather have a pub then a drop. dragon mauled but i leveled him. he was also kinda noob taking frosties with BA.

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roots > interchange till lvl 6

not if u take forcefield. u can interchange them into the forcefield while with roots, u need to roots then run(and the cd is huge so u cant really keep them).
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ff is very op. I think bond needs to remove the dmg it does

he needs to remove 3-5 sec invuln time off each level. lvl 1 shud give none, lvl 2 shud give 5, lvl 3 shud give 8.
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interchange is useless

then u didnt play it right. i played it vs lamsauce stack and beat them easy. this build works best tho when i play it with vid and he takes hex or stun with unholy(and when i have medivh since blink).
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Too many flaws there... I saw replay
I COULDNT believe no one got cannon or TELEPORTED even once during the whole game

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(its vs pubs tho so not much to brag about).

altho there were flaws(i shuda gotten owl in case of ww players), and a mana dragon for nukes and other ults. like when i played u i shuda gotten a mana dragon for u and for ur summons ally. this build is highly effective rosa if u know how to play it. try using forcefield then interchanging ppl(and btw one team did get a cannon if i recall, i think it was t4 later into game).
i dont think u get the concept of interchange in this build. it isnt meant to bring them back to u. its meant to bring them into u. by what i read of ur previous post ur thinking of blinking, then using ff, then using interchange when they escape. the way i play it, i use one ward, then ff, then interchange them in.
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just dont interchange in inhouses cause everyone carries 100000000000 recalls.

not rly. the only teams i see doing it usually are sound's, bond's, and cheesy/xmon's.
in an efb-bot inhouse i cud do this with pubs and win by using pengs.

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wards alone wont do enough, even with tichmeh

depends on levels of wards and tich. u need wards level 3 and tich level 3 at least with 1 FF cast to do it. lvl 5-6 wards and lvl 5-6 tich is an easy kill on heroes(2 casts of wards so 6-8 with tich is enuf to kill a hero 3 hits from each ward at level 5, 1 hit at level 6).
 
RosarioVampireZDate: Wednesday, 11-Apr-2012, 6:41 PM | Message # 8
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again dont call this a fair game. u had f.u.d for one(who isnt "rusty" so dont say he is). and vid dropped. would rather have a pub then a drop. dragon mauled but i leveled him. he was also kinda noob taking frosties with BA.

I had 5k by this time. My team had 1 to 2k each. I could have just teched raiders and rushed to bk after sleeping you.
Dont forget my team had AURA. Ya..i was giving u a chance all game smile
I had to be rich bfore vid dced in order to get 3 pengs. Dont forget that !

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not if u take forcefield. u can interchange them into the forcefield while with roots, u need to roots then run(and the cd is huge so u cant really keep them).

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Forcefield with roots =WORKS better since medivh has blink.
and the cd is pretty short smile

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he needs to remove 3-5 sec invuln time off each level. lvl 1 shud give none, lvl 2 shud give 5, lvl 3 shud give 8.

Killer says something useful for once...although i would change other stuffs too

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then u didnt play it right. i played it vs lamsauce stack and beat them easy. this build works best tho when i play it with vid and he takes hex or stun with unholy(and when i have medivh since blink).

that moment when i used interchange more than u. I am the one who created interchange, lasso, sleep with the help of black.baby (the guy who quit)
Lamsauce was a player. Since when? i nvr knew lambs with ketchup sauce could play chf. o.O

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not rly. the only teams i see doing it usually are sound's, bond's, and cheesy/xmon's.
in an efb-bot inhouse i cud do this with pubs and win by using pengs.

w0w... seriously..LOL
Dont joke around with inhouse efb-bot. They are all better player than u
Why u think I keep emphasizing its impossible to kill g golems against them? EVERY ONE OF THEM HAS RECALL!

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depends on levels of wards and tich. u need wards level 3 and tich level 3 at least with 1 FF cast to do it. lvl 5-6 wards and lvl 5-6 tich is an easy kill on heroes(2 casts of wards so 6-8 with tich is enuf to kill a hero 3 hits from each ward at level 5, 1 hit at level 6).

And u only killed me once in the game where u had that build. Other deaths was from OTHER causes....
I dont call a build effective if it can only kill a player once in game..HAHAHAHAHAJAJJAJJAAJJAAJAJAJAJ


 
XXkillerbeansXXDate: Wednesday, 11-Apr-2012, 8:15 PM | Message # 9
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. Ya..i was giving u a chance all game

liar
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Forcefield with roots =WORKS better since medivh has blink.

thats the thing, it only works with blink heroes the way u want it.
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interchange, lasso, sleep with the help of black.baby (the guy who quit)

you are not. i got it in a beta, to test it with sleep.
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And u only killed me once in the game where u had that build.

dont forget u had double blink because of medivh so u cud just blink away once i used interchange.
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I dont call a build effective if it can only kill a player once in game

and if i recall, i had 25 hk that game.

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P.S. we should stop turning every thread on here into flame between me and you...

 
RosarioVampireZDate: Wednesday, 11-Apr-2012, 8:45 PM | Message # 10
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you are not. i got it in a beta, to test it with sleep.

There are times when u should realize
http://chf.ucoz.com/forum/20-1926-1#34472
U are quite wrong
Dude...plz stop acting like EVERYTHING is ur build. From fallen's 1v1 build to mine...ur just freaking %$%$%. Saying other ppl's build are urs? HOW SAD
AND FYI. I USED INTERCHANGE IN BETA 1 THAT SOUNDWAVES GAVE ME. SO U CANT SAY CRAP EITHER THERE TOO

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thats the thing, it only works with blink heroes the way u want it.

I hadnt been saving my legit codes for no reason

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dont forget u had double blink because of medivh so u cud just blink away once i used interchange.

1 blink lvl 6 is enough to get away anywayz and i had recall all game (recalled twice from death -one from MINDRAPE and ur build-)

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and if i recall, i had 25 hk that game.

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can only kill a player once in game

Nein (HEHHEHE) TIMES ONE = NEIN! (nine)

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we should stop turning every thread on here into flame between me and you

U shuld stop saying
nova, devotion, healing wave is ur build (i even posted on forum LONG ago about fallen's build -way bfore ur match-)
interchange, lasso, sleep is also not ur build (its mine and blackbabyz.)
lasso, serpent, sleep is also my build (version 2.1..beat that time )
and ur build is HORRIBLE. I still cant believe u got it when ur team had CLEAVE (Take a build that benefits ur team, not urself)

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U do know i can also BUY blink in shop for cheap price?
It would also be double blink in any hero (a hero can have max of 4 blink spells)

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and if i recall, i had the most uk in game and MOST gold
who gets 3 pengs (30k + ur feed cause ur dumb) in less than 40 minutes?

its basically saying...
like more than a 1000 per minute (How u ask? Cause im a bawss and dont waste expensive gold on tome and instead use the training exp thing from owl shop for lvl)

PS to ALL the members:
the training exp from owl shop is like a free ssd mode in normal games. Get it if u cant afford tome and u need 2-3 pengs..lol


 
XXkillerbeansXXDate: Wednesday, 11-Apr-2012, 9:29 PM | Message # 11
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i had the most uk in game and MOST gold

not when i got killed. i left and had 300 more uk and 5 more hk then u.
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who gets 3 pengs (30k + ur feed cause ur dumb) in less than 40 minutes?

dont forget WE DIDNT FEED. we were the only team to buy a cannon and use it. the thing about the 3 pengs is the 40 mins not the 43.5k gold.
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he training exp from owl shop is like a free ssd mode in normal games

it doesnt give ur hero xp. it gives ur units Unit Training Xp.
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I still cant believe u got it when ur team had CLEAVE (Take a build that benefits ur team, not urself)

i still cant believe my ally took cleave after me. dude im always the first person out with their build now. always.
 
RosarioVampireZDate: Wednesday, 11-Apr-2012, 9:34 PM | Message # 12
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Unit Training Xp.

Ur right
But at least u get Something (im pretty sure everything helps u -even stats-)
for once..ur right..lol

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i still cant believe my ally took cleave after me. dude im always the first person out with their build now. always.

u coulda -repicked


 
FirNesSDate: Thursday, 12-Apr-2012, 0:51 AM | Message # 13
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Your build isn't enough good. Why? Because you can't kill any hero without FF, so you have to wait for the cooldown.
Then, OK, it works against noobs, but it isn't hard.

I prefer from far Wards / Acid / Unholly / FF, toming untill level 16 and then buying granites.
I may have used this build in 50 games (against pubs AND "pros"), and I may have lost twice, when it was 3v1. Not because I'm the best or anything like this, just because this build is so op and can counter any other build. Also, don't forget that this build thrice uk, hk and bk.
It is at least way better than your build, and you can begin hking well at level 10.


 
RosarioVampireZDate: Thursday, 12-Apr-2012, 0:58 AM | Message # 14
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Dont bring too complex builds in this post
Killer needs to understand them..jking :P

Preferably, I suggest never get interchange unless I have roots with me or lasso -and a newt-
cause then...more secure than a failed version of forcefield (where u waste ult and hero slides away)

Wards, Unholy, aoe (nova or acid) is pretty damn good spell
i have to admit... 80 of my win codes from my acc are from this build


 
FirNesSDate: Thursday, 12-Apr-2012, 1:12 AM | Message # 15
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Interchange is only good with sleep. :P

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Or with earthquake, if one of your mate has it.


 
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