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balancing issues and ideas for 4.1
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| Legal_life | Date: Tuesday, 20-Mar-2012, 0:27 AM | Message # 1 |
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| XXkillerbeansXX | Date: Sunday, 25-Mar-2012, 11:06 AM | Message # 31 |
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| Quote (josh12508) almost everyone i see going darks tech's to nelf
thats because their idiots. NE is 3rd best dark tier. aboms and knights are the 1st and 2nd best tiers(taurens lose a dark fight so easy). dont forget knights bash everything they hit and if with that bash, finish off melee tiers' units within seconds and range tiers in a couple minutes. ive survived someone using WoG with dark tauren with 12 dark knights, why? cause the bash didnt allow any tauren to attack. ill make UD short :P. If ur the first to darks by 1+ tiers, take aboms as they pwn for bk.
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| SOUNDWAVES | Date: Sunday, 25-Mar-2012, 11:28 AM | Message # 32 |
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| Quote (XXkillerbeansXX) aboms and knights are the 1st and 2nd best tiers(taurens lose a dark fight so easy)
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Dark Tauren with lv6 endu rapes every other tech, except full upgrade abomination with aura
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| Cheesy-Gordia | Date: Sunday, 25-Mar-2012, 12:28 PM | Message # 33 |
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| Quote (killerbeans) aboms and knights are the 1st and 2nd best tiers(taurens lose a dark fight so easy)
Gimme that cocaine powder son.
Fuck no lol, dude dark taurens rape every single tier because of how op pulvarize is. It demolishes knights, dryads, mortars, aboms (aboms depends how upgraded they are)
I hate this n***a actin like jesus - SOUNDWAVES
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| FirNesS | Date: Sunday, 25-Mar-2012, 1:32 PM | Message # 34 |
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| Quote (Cheesy-Gordia) Fuck no lol, dude dark taurens rape every single tier because of how op pulvarize is. It demolishes knights, dryads, mortars, aboms (aboms depends how upgraded they are)
I agree.
And I also agree with most of the ideas that have been said, especially for the granite golem. I often buy granites, but I thinkt they are too op. Maybe you shouldn't nerf them but only up their cost... Make it like 5000 gold.
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| 2DaYuDiE | Date: Sunday, 25-Mar-2012, 3:22 PM | Message # 35 |
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| Quote (FirNesS)
I agree.
And I also agree with most of the ideas that have been said, especially for the granite golem. I often buy granites, but I thinkt they are too op. Maybe you shouldn't nerf them but only up their cost... Make it like 5000 gold.
you have to be carefull who u pick as enemy...
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| FirNesS | Date: Sunday, 25-Mar-2012, 3:50 PM | Message # 36 |
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| Quote (2DaYuDiE) you have to be carefull who u pick as enemy...
My build Wards / Acid / Unholly / FF where I tome till level 13 and then wait for granite ALWAYS works. 
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| XXkillerbeansXX | Date: Sunday, 25-Mar-2012, 5:05 PM | Message # 37 |
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| Quote (SOUNDWAVES) Dark Tauren with lv6 endu rapes every other tech,
... try using dark knights with lvl 6 endurance against dark tauren with lvl 6 endurance. the tauren would win if you had mroe and they could all fight. but in a fight where u make ur knights attack 1 units each, it completely stops the attacking of the tauren. ill try to get a replay of tauren vs knight sometime today to show you.
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| RosarioVampireZ | Date: Sunday, 25-Mar-2012, 7:18 PM | Message # 38 |
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... try using dark knights with lvl 6 endurance against dark tauren with lvl 6 endurance. the tauren would win if you had mroe and they could all fight. but in a fight where u make ur knights attack 1 units each, it completely stops the attacking of the tauren. ill try to get a replay of tauren vs knight sometime today to show you.
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| josh12508 | Date: Sunday, 25-Mar-2012, 7:21 PM | Message # 39 |
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| To Killerbeans: thats because their idiots. NE is 3rd best dark tier. aboms and knights are the 1st and 2nd best tiers(taurens lose a dark fight so easy).
I call bs on that. If a dark knight has lvl 5 animal war training and ads have lvl 5 rng bonus, and lets say both have full upped att, at the choke point of the base which is were the fighting would take place, the ads would win purly because of the fact that more of the ads can att at one time. plus it would come down to teamwork, and i would have my team save a bunch of foots as human meat shields. which in the short term wouldnt last long, but in the long term the knights would be half hp by the time they got to the ads. Same thing with abombs, which are rlly only good if you get them first and everyone els is at either teir 3-4 or lower. add me on wc3 and we will let eachother get to darks and balance it so that they have even upps, we will see who wins.
And btw i tech nelf all the time and win every game.
RIP-TBS and old CHF, we will miss you both. =(
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| a_chinese_kid | Date: Sunday, 25-Mar-2012, 9:48 PM | Message # 40 |
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| pink ponies > all darks
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| Legal_life | Date: Monday, 26-Mar-2012, 12:06 PM | Message # 41 |
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| Dark Tauren rape everything.
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| FirNesS | Date: Monday, 26-Mar-2012, 12:11 PM | Message # 42 |
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| Yep. Added (2012-03-26, 1:11 PM)
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Oh and by the way, buff Drailliance aura levels 1 2 3 4.
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| XXkillerbeansXX | Date: Monday, 26-Mar-2012, 6:18 PM | Message # 43 |
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| Quote (josh12508) which are rlly only good if you get them first
Quote (XXkillerbeansXX) ill make UD short :P. If ur the first to darks by 1+ tiers, take aboms as they pwn for bk.
Quote (josh12508) and lets say both have full upped att, at the choke point of the base which is were the fighting would take place
u my friend are an idiot. when was the last time you saw someone fully upgrade any of the 3 upgrades? i know i've only done it 3 times and each was during black arrow with kodos on healthpoints. the spot on where it is won't matter, the dryads have so little health and armor already compared to other tiers, dark knights will just pwn them with bash which is chaos damage(i think?). 35% chance and 150 dmg for 2-5 sec stun(cant remember exact stun times).
Quote (josh12508) nd btw i tech nelf all the time and win every game.
no one wins every game. you my friend are an idiot.
Quote (josh12508) so that they have even upps
i dont think anyone ever gets even upgrades on their units. usually the melee is lopsided because most of the time, people dont use night elf but anything but flat tech(not using units but mainly killing). while on the other hand, human and orc are upgraded in attack mainly because ppl use riflemen to hk, grunts as meat shields, trolls as hk, and raiders as tech/base raid.
Quote (josh12508) i would have my team save a bunch of foots as human meat shield
thats assuming you have a competent team. most of your strategy/argument is incompetent and not backed by solid facts. their all hypothetical situations. pm me the times you're on most, and ill play vs u. im always on chfg-bot on west server.Added (2012-03-26, 7:18 PM)
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getting back to the thread read below
#114: this needs a huge nerf in duration time. like it should only be max 60 seconds. not 2 minutes. you have enough time with a level 3 death tower to kill a cannon, unupgraded tower, 2 peasants, and 3/4 of a base. name another ult other then eq(which is easily stopped) which can do this.
#99: not much to say about this one. just reduce cooldown time to about 60 sec at level 3, so its like getting a free ankh.
#40: more area on these. damage is fine but they have no area.
#91: same damage on buildings as thunderstorm
#90: more troops ressurected, less cooldown time
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| josh12508 | Date: Monday, 26-Mar-2012, 6:41 PM | Message # 44 |
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| I never said that i won every time, i mearly said that i won if i get to dryads with my team still in tact. btw, its not that hard to get a team to cooperate with you when they see that your good and know what your doing. and also, when i said even upps, i ment that your knights have say 10 att and 10 animal war training, and my ads would have 10 att and 10 rng bonus. got it?
i get on around 5 pm us-east.
RIP-TBS and old CHF, we will miss you both. =(
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| RosarioVampireZ | Date: Monday, 26-Mar-2012, 7:58 PM | Message # 45 |
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#30
#56
#57
#48
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needs a buff NO MATTER WHAT. either through aoe or more dmg or both
seriously... i laugh hard (not even pubs get these spells exc3pt in ars)Added (2012-03-26, 8:58 PM)
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Quote (XXkillerbeansXX) #40: more area on these. damage is fine but they have no area.
#40 is good enough already. Try bloodlusting or avataring with these spells... Op as shiz. after all, it does one of most dmg in aoe game (more than firestorm at level 6)
#30 needs a buff though (fire storm thingy from blood mage)
same dmg as firestorm but takes 7 seconds for spell to go? Seriously???????
ppl already leave or tp even bfore this 7 second duration happens...lol !
i think that fire storm thingy from blood mage needs DOUBLE DAMAGE and BIGGER aoe. Think about it. a spell that does same dmg as firestorm but takes similar amount of time as blizzard? Fked up...lol
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