1. ok well as everyone is saying, nerf some hk/aoe spells. everyone knows these are good and uses them. that is fine because if you are a good chf player, you learn to counter when pubs use them so saying "they make noobs seem pro/win" cannot really be a decent excuse. but in saying that, i know i do and other frequent chf players use aoe/hk spells so maybe a nerf will help.
2. secondly, well i recently played a "Footmen Frenzy 5.4 AR" and i loved it! (aside from all four teams choosing to tech rifles as per usual in 5.4) these are the features i liked and would like to see brought back into chf.
- no invulnerable base -> it is fun to harass - later mass -> gives more time for chosing in chf and also harass time/hero time - changing tech races -> perhaps make this a mode, having to tech through a whole race makes it better. , add a cost of tier to change. - no auto scroll -> pooling and selling boots for scroll is good, more 'team' based
3. buff or get rid of the spells no one goes, they just seem pointless. these buffs i am referring to include spells like: searing/cold arrows. (not a major issue)
At the moment that is all i can think of, sorry not a huge list. (because chf is awesome! ) anyway, hope bond and whoever helps sees this. hope bond, you fdo not read this in anyway as hate towards your map as i assure you that i love it, these are just my own opinions which i believe will make chf funner for me and possibly others. same reason goes for the fact that i do not want people saying that these suggestions are shit and that they dont want.. MY OPINION...
1. ok well as everyone is saying, nerf some hk/aoe spells. everyone knows these are good and uses them. that is fine because if you are a good chf player, you learn to counter when pubs use them so saying "they make noobs seem pro/win" cannot really be a decent excuse. but in saying that, i know i do and other frequent chf players use aoe/hk spells so maybe a nerf will help.
2. secondly, well i recently played a "Footmen Frenzy 5.4 AR" and i loved it! (aside from all four teams choosing to tech rifles as per usual in 5.4) these are the features i liked and would like to see brought back into chf.
- no invulnerable base -> it is fun to harass - later mass -> gives more time for chosing in chf and also harass time/hero time - changing tech races -> perhaps make this a mode, having to tech through a whole race makes it better. , add a cost of tier to change. - no auto scroll -> pooling and selling boots for scroll is good, more 'team' based
3. buff or get rid of the spells no one goes, they just seem pointless. these buffs i am referring to include spells like: searing/cold arrows. (not a major issue)
At the moment that is all i can think of, sorry not a huge list. (because chf is awesome! ) anyway, hope bond and whoever helps sees this. hope bond, you fdo not read this in anyway as hate towards your map as i assure you that i love it, these are just my own opinions which i believe will make chf funner for me and possibly others. same reason goes for the fact that i do not want people saying that these suggestions are shit and that they dont want.. MY OPINION...
THANKS, Baggyshaw.
well im not agree whit you...in fact i belive that early mass is because well let say its Custom Hero not footman frenzy...so off course we can tech later and we have a a lot of time to play whit heroes...so in my opinion i dont see why shold we go back to latter mass..might just well play footmen frenzy for that.no auto scroll its lame because we had this problem in the past...nobs wont pool and those who have scroll they win for sure.invul its better then have someone to come and kill your base in 2 /3 min after the gama starts...we had this problem in the past.and why shold we get rid off spells ?we have so many?i dont thing so ...and why do you thing ppl dont use them(ok im agree whit you pub dont use them but they are good spells if you know how to use them....and in my opinion well we shold have more spells and not to get rid off them.sorry bro but im not agree whit you. IM NOT TOTALLY USELESS.....I CAN BE USED AS A BAD EXAMPLE
I think Both wards should be removed prior at mass. Also baggy, the harrassing at mass worked well for footy frenzy because all heroes were there. In CHF everyones still trying to figure out what build each other are taking or pubs/noobs will be trying to sepnd the few minutes trying to pick a build so they wouldnt be paying attention. e.g noobs killing our items is a good example, im sure you didn't notice that from time to time lol.
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2. secondly, well i recently played a "Footmen Frenzy 5.4 AR" and i loved it! (aside from all four teams choosing to tech rifles as per usual in 5.4) these are the features i liked and would like to see brought back into chf.
2. secondly, well i recently played a "Footmen Frenzy 5.4 AR" and i loved it! (aside from all four teams choosing to tech rifles as per usual in 5.4) these are the features i liked and would like to see brought back into chf.
- no invulnerable base -> it is fun to harass - later mass -> gives more time for chosing in chf and also harass time/hero time - changing tech races -> perhaps make this a mode, having to tech through a whole race makes it better. , add a cost of tier to change. - no auto scroll -> pooling and selling boots for scroll is good, more 'team' based
Not trying to scare you off but you must be very new. The more youve played chf you have seen how its evolved from these things and added these features. This is an evolved form of footies it doesnt need to be put back to where it was. Like i dont know how to put this but these ideas will be ignored due to the fact we've been there before and after a long time weve all realized its best to have these features because of teamates being crappy etc.
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3. buff or get rid of the spells no one goes, they just seem pointless. these buffs i am referring to include spells like: searing/cold arrows. (not a major issue)
After Death left people have really underestimated frost arrows. Those things are beasts if used correctly. Slow damage + 120 extra damage is plenty i mean there could be slight buffs but nothing really noticeable. I agree some spells should be taken out and they have
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I think Both wards should be removed prior at mass
Yep they own the mass. I mean they are too strong for early mass but its not like they need nerf because then they will be too weak later in game. They just need to be on cd during mass.
i agree with wards being removed, also dont let interchange work at mass IF you keep the same laggy mass http://chf.ucoz.com/forum/71-3499-61942-16-1396993348
someone to come and kill your base in 2 /3 min after the gama starts
i doubt this..
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why shold we get rid off spells ?we have so many?i dont thing so ...and why do you thing ppl dont use them(ok im agree whit you pub dont use them but they are good spells if you know how to use them....and in my opinion well we shold have more spells and not to get rid off them
ok how often do you see people use spells such as death pact or syphon mana?
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people have really underestimated frost arrows. Those things are beasts if used correctly
and using an aoe such as nova which is alot more effective is much better spell as it is worth using from lvl 1 and will aid in gaining early levels. i do like these though
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like what? did u know thers a -classic mode?
lol you actually think this is 5.4?? its basically ars apart from you get the heroes usual spells. all the chf features are there...
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In CHF everyones still trying to figure out what build each other are taking or pubs/noobs will be trying to sepnd the few minutes trying to pick a build so they wouldnt be paying attention.
i understand that from a teammate perspective this is bad, a noob will feed... but the idea of gaining a few kills early is good, makes early game more skill base if that makes sense? like... umm... i dunno, it was good to get your stuf sorted fast and harass. i like/d it.
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no auto scroll its lame because we had this problem in the past...nobs wont pool and those who have scroll they win for sure
well as said before same applies for wards these days... just having scroll to pool for makes for w wider range of things to get, turtle, pop, jammy, scroll, wards, sham... now there are no turtle masses, no pop masses, few shaman masses..
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The more youve played chf you have seen how its evolved from these things and added these features. This is an evolved form of footies it doesnt need to be put back to where it was
not neccessarily true.. features may be added and then after test, they seem ridiculous or pointless.. take ff for example, its power was realised and it nerfed.
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i doubt this..
well that happend before...trust me.
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why shold we get rid off spells ?we have so many?i dont thing so ...and why do you thing ppl dont use them(ok im agree whit you pub dont use them but they are good spells if you know how to use them....and in my opinion well we shold have more spells and not to get rid off them
ok how often do you see people use spells such as death pact or syphon mana?
well ok maybe you are right...but it is bother you because is there or?
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people have really underestimated frost arrows. Those things are beasts if used correctly
and using an aoe such as nova which is alot more effective is much better spell as it is worth using from lvl 1 and will aid in gaining early levels. i do like these though
every spells are good if you know how to use them so i dont see a point in this.try it and you will se for yourself
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lol you actually think this is 5.4?? its basically ars apart from you get the heroes usual spells. all the chf features are there...
well let just say ppl get bored waithing for mass...and you can not say that pubs will kill a hero because they have latter mass...but you can say they leave if you kill their hero...like this was happend before
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In CHF everyones still trying to figure out what build each other are taking or pubs/noobs will be trying to sepnd the few minutes trying to pick a build so they wouldnt be paying attention.
i understand that from a teammate perspective this is bad, a noob will feed... but the idea of gaining a few kills early is good, makes early game more skill base if that makes sense? like... umm... i dunno, it was good to get your stuf sorted fast and harass. i like/d it.
like i said you will have an empty game
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no auto scroll its lame because we had this problem in the past...nobs wont pool and those who have scroll they win for sure
well as said before same applies for wards these days... just having scroll to pool for makes for w wider range of things to get, turtle, pop, jammy, scroll, wards, sham... now there are no turtle masses, no pop masses, few shaman masses..
trust me wards can be counter so its not a big thing.its not like you will win for sure if you buy wards...well maybe if you play against noobs
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The more youve played chf you have seen how its evolved from these things and added these features. This is an evolved form of footies it doesnt need to be put back to where it was
not neccessarily true.. features may be added and then after test, they seem ridiculous or pointless.. take ff for example, its power was realised and it nerfed.
yea you are right.....but well this things was in the past so why shold be put back.
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like you said its my opinion too ..and let not forget more playing and less talk. IM NOT TOTALLY USELESS.....I CAN BE USED AS A BAD EXAMPLE
not neccessarily true.. features may be added and then after test, they seem ridiculous or pointless.. take ff for example, its power was realised and it nerfed.
yeah but the features we are talking about ARENT spells. They are years of developing footies and realizing they are neccessary for this or that. The only reason new people like you want these things removed is because over time we begin to forget why these features were added and are necessary so if we do forget than we remove the feature and end up repeating the process of trying to counter something such as double avalanche basekilling.
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the reason is because of the custom heroes. with the the time it takes to choose skills u need invuln base.
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later mass -> gives more time for chosing in chf and also harass time/hero time
did u know that when there was the option to vote for this at the start of each game, it was nearly always voted to be early?
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changing tech races -> perhaps make this a mode, having to tech through a whole race makes it better.
what ver are you playing this has been around for a bunch of versions...
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add a cost of tier to change.
why? you lose all special upgrades when you change so its just like losing gold anyways.
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no auto scroll -> pooling and selling boots for scroll is good, more 'team' based
why? so that solo players have even less of a chance to win?
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ok how often do you see people use spells such as death pact or syphon mana?
have u ever played a game with me b4ck_st4bz and qu1ck_sc0pez on a team? our deal is to never take ww or divine or even cheap aoes. in fact we each have builds for siphon mana.
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and using an aoe such as nova which is alot more effective is much better spell as it is worth using from lvl 1 and will aid in gaining early levels. i do like these though
try using acid/tich with it. if you get enough armor loss, like around 20-30 it does about as much damage as nova does in 1 hit but on every shot, and with much more slow effect.
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lol you actually think this is 5.4?? its basically ars apart from you get the heroes usual spells. all the chf features are there...
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wow, i just mentioned a few features of 5.4 ... -.- none of which are in in chf. for a similar game, it feels completely different to play.
its a similar game, not a mirror game with custom skills. if it was a mirror game it would be much much more imba.
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ol you actually think this is 5.4?? its basically ars apart from you get the heroes usual spells. all the chf features are there...
then go play 5.4 and stop complaining here.
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well as said before same applies for wards these days... just having scroll to pool for makes for w wider range of things to get, turtle, pop, jammy, scroll, wards, sham... now there are no turtle masses, no pop masses, few shaman masses..
i have never seen a pop mass or a turtle mass. the most ppl get is 2 pops with jamies and shamans when they go creeps. and you can only afford wards exactly if you have killed some foots and/or have every player sell boots with a code of 25+...
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not neccessarily true.. features may be added and then after test, they seem ridiculous or pointless.. take ff for example, its power was realised and it nerfed
generally that is what the beta is for.
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you come just to troll?
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3. buff or get rid of the spells no one goes, they just seem pointless. these buffs i am referring to include spells like: searing/cold arrows. (not a major issue)
searing arrows just needs to require less mana per shot. frost is perfect as is. try using either of these spells in a build using ww acid arrow or roots acid arrow. you hk so much its not funny.
seriously i dont know what happened to you maybe rosa just got up all in your head or some shit but seriously you fail at trolling or i guess you are successful cause peeps liek you who make an ass of yourself just make me auto hate.. you fked up now man
