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| ic3dt3a | Date: Sunday, 27-Jan-2013, 8:24 PM | Message # 1 |
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| bonds adjusitng 20 things, i think this should be one of them. vote yes if u agree
http://chf.ucoz.com/forum/71-3499-61942-16-1396993348
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| FireHart | Date: Monday, 28-Jan-2013, 10:44 AM | Message # 2 |
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| Druids are op and takes like 8 aoe dispels now which is more mana than a jammy has
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| Adam_CZ | Date: Monday, 28-Jan-2013, 11:29 AM | Message # 3 |
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| No. Druids is not OP really. You wanna send replays where they dispel my druids in 5 seconds? Give me your mail.... Tower of teror dispell druids very easy or 2 jammy priest. And please dont talk shits like "you can use cyclone on priest" cause its not possible they are usually out of range (watch this video on youtube) there is not many pro players with high APM who can stun and attack hero + cyclone druids lol... There are 1000x more OP spells than druids (mindrape and after use enemy pinguins or healing ward of gods) or Donation (you get 5000 gold only when you stay in base) druids are OK how they are now.
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| 2DaYuDiE | Date: Monday, 28-Jan-2013, 11:32 AM | Message # 4 |
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| Quote (Adam_CZ) No. Druids is not OP really. You wanna send replays where they dispel my druids in 5 seconds? Give me your mail.... Tower of teror dispell druids very easy or 2 jammy priest. And please dont talk shits like "you can use cyclone on priest" cause its not possible they are usually out of range (watch this video on youtube) there is not many pro players with high APM who can stun and attack hero + cyclone druids lol... There are 1000x more OP spells than druids (mindrape and after use enemy pinguins or healing ward of gods) or Donation (you get 5000 gold only when you stay in base) druids are OK how they are now.
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| Adam_CZ | Date: Monday, 28-Jan-2013, 11:37 AM | Message # 5 |
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| Wtf why nerf them? Its really stupid. Ok nerf everything, nerf pinguins and night teror. Make pinguins and night teror dispel able they are OP. Nigt teror is OP he has 15000 hp please give him only 2000 hp and dispel able 2 jammies, pinguins too. Also Ward of Gods is very OP (5000 hp Druids only 3000) make wards easy dispel, maybe only 500 hp? And druids too? LOL
And Summon Bears not OP? Why can not dispel Bears 6 level but you can dispel Ents, Lawa Spawn or Water elementals? Everythink is OP stop play this game maybe..
Tell me what different Bear vs Water elemental? Why can dispel Elemental and not Bear? Use brain please. And death tower not OP? Death tower attack base but arcane tower can not attack death tower... Tower base kill easy (+ potion focus) tower more OP than druids.
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| FireHart | Date: Monday, 28-Jan-2013, 11:59 AM | Message # 6 |
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| U said tot uhm u would not use Druids in a base at that stage and really very few people go get tots anyway soo what is ur point
and talk about off topic
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| Adam_CZ | Date: Monday, 28-Jan-2013, 12:07 PM | Message # 7 |
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| I just dont understand why people have problem with druids but nobody is talking about mindrape? When you use this spell on hero who have pinguins, ward of gods its not OP? And Ward Of Gods not Off Topic. Wards not OP? Its more hard dispel than druids lol, make it easy dispel.
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| F00ty_R3b0rn | Date: Monday, 28-Jan-2013, 12:13 PM | Message # 8 |
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| Adam you are the only here who says that druids aren't op....
Compare DRUIDS with YAMATO
- Yamato : easy to use AND 1 HK
- Druids : Harder to use BUT between 1 - 4 HK ----> it's not normal.
You say it's easy to counter druids with 2 jammies + Priest (1 K 650) to counter 1 ulti.... You can still transmute jammie if one
of your ally has transmute. So you need to buy zepplin ----> 1 K 650 + 450 = 2K100 for 1 ulti...
Idea to nerf druids :
Lvl 1 : You can dispel with 1 aoe of jammie
Lvl 2 : You can dispel with 1 aoe of jammie
Lvl 3 : You can dispel with 2 aoe of jammie
AND maybe nerf duration a little bit.
----> Result : Druids are still op in middle of the map but they are more weak in base...
For me Explosion + Mind rape aren't op. It's a good way to counter pinguins and Golem.
Just be carefull when you have pinguins for doesn't be Mind rape.
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| Adam_CZ | Date: Monday, 28-Jan-2013, 1:26 PM | Message # 9 |
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| Quote Adam you are the only here who says that druids aren't op....
4 people vote NO to nerf (3+ me)
All people say "you can use transmute on priest" thats not true. There is this item (dont remember name) it cost only 800 gold and after is Jammy "re-name" (bad english dont know how say it) on "Joza" and you can not transmute him.
Sometimes you kill 3-4 hero with druids but i think its not very often. When people see druids they fast use teleport, blink, divine shield....
Yes I some times kill 3 hero with druids but also depend about HP enemy hero. Some heroes have low HP and you can kill them very easy with druids (Medivh, ItsOver, FireLord, Edge...) but there is many heroes who have high HP and sometimes you can not kill just one hero with druids (Hulk, Avalanche, Naga Royal Guard, Captain Bond, Stooge, Crypt Lord, Paladin) - buy heart holimayden for these heroes and no chance for 1 HK with druids 3 level.
Druid very short duration (only 20/30/40 seconds) I think no need dispel units with this short duration....
You say "4HK with druids its nor normal" but what about shamans? You every game (almost every game) play Banish + Shamans Death Coil. You kill much more heroes this way than Druids. Its definitely most OP cause nobody can transmute Shaman with transmute 1 level. Druids is very good for kill those creeps (shaman, Bob the Newt...)
If you wanna nerf Druids i think also make possible transmute 1 level on Shamans = noposible transmute shaman very OP.
Mindrape definitely most OP in game. I think nerf it (enemy will not can use items in inventory + ultimate spell after mindrape). Explosion also very OP (4HK with druids not normal but kill golem who cost 15 000 gold with one ultimate spell and potion focus its OK?)
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| F00ty_R3b0rn | Date: Monday, 28-Jan-2013, 2:00 PM | Message # 10 |
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| Quote (Adam_CZ) 4 people vote NO to nerf (3+ me) All people say "you can use transmute on priest" thats not true. There is this item (dont remember name) it cost only 800 gold and after is Jammy "re-name" (bad english dont know how say it) on "Joza" and you can not transmute him. Sometimes you kill 3-4 hero with druids but i think its not very often. When people see druids they fast use teleport, blink, divine shield.... Yes I some times kill 3 hero with druids but also depend about HP enemy hero. Some heroes have low HP and you can kill them very easy with druids (Medivh, ItsOver, FireLord, Edge...) but there is many heroes who have high HP and sometimes you can not kill just one hero with druids (Hulk, Avalanche, Naga Royal Guard, Captain Bond, Stooge, Crypt Lord, Paladin) - buy heart holimayden for these heroes and no chance for 1 HK with druids 3 level. Druid very short duration (only 20/30/40 seconds) I think no need dispel units with this short duration.... You say "4HK with druids its nor normal" but what about shamans? You every game (almost every game) play Banish + Shamans Death Coil. You kill much more heroes this way than Druids. Its definitely most OP cause nobody can transmute Shaman with transmute 1 level. Druids is very good for kill those creeps (shaman, Bob the Newt...) If you wanna nerf Druids i think also make possible transmute 1 level on Shamans = noposible transmute shaman very OP. Mindrape definitely most OP in game. I think nerf it (enemy will not can use items in inventory + ultimate spell after mindrape). Explosion also very OP (4HK with druids not normal but kill golem who cost 15 000 gold with one ultimate spell and potion focus its OK?)
Just stop to talk shit omg. You are still a noob so go away plz....
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| shinkirou | Date: Monday, 28-Jan-2013, 2:15 PM | Message # 11 |
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| adam is right i have much replays about him how i dispel his druids like in 10 seconds or less man  druids are easy just everyone is a kindda noob to do that
That's easy. If someone wins, the fighting will end.
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| Adam_CZ | Date: Monday, 28-Jan-2013, 2:57 PM | Message # 12 |
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| lol Footy you have 196 APM and you think you are the best? not argument so you will insult me?maybe i am noob but you are not pro.... and everybody can write opinion here (also noobs like me)....
when you say "no transmute 1 level shaman because nobody will buy shaman" its the same like "dont nerf druids because nobody will take druids" understand? thats all what i want say.
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| shinkirou | Date: Monday, 28-Jan-2013, 3:14 PM | Message # 13 |
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| LOL i dont say u noob xD hajajaja lamao i say the guys who want nerf druids is cause they cant dispel XD
That's easy. If someone wins, the fighting will end.
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| F00ty_R3b0rn | Date: Monday, 28-Jan-2013, 3:21 PM | Message # 14 |
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| Quote (Adam_CZ) lol Footy you have 196 APM and you think you are the best? not argument so you will insult me?maybe i am noob but you are not pro.... and everybody can write opinion here (also noobs like me).... when you say "no transmute 1 level shaman because nobody will buy shaman" its the same like "dont nerf druids because nobody will take druids" understand? thats all what i want say.
Just try to think before post. I was a little aggressiv and sry for this but sometimes you have not enough experience man!
You need like 8 aoe of jammie for dispel druids. You have a lot of time to take 1 of your druid and use cyclone. It's impossible to dispel this ulti. And 1K100 ( 2 jammies) it's overprice to counter only 1 ulti...
With my idea druids are still op and you can still kill hero or shaman or others creeps.
You can think that druids are op and vote "no" because you doesn't want nerf...
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| Adam_CZ | Date: Monday, 28-Jan-2013, 3:39 PM | Message # 15 |
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| Ok....
When I have druids enemy dispel them with priest very often, I dont like. Of Course I know its my mistake too, because I am slow. You say I am noob and I agree with you (yes I am noob). Watch your APM and watch my APM. I can not stun and attack hero with druids + use cyclone on priest. Maybe is Druid OP when use them players like you, but not all players have your APM, there is many noobs with my APM (or lower) and they cant use cyclone....maybe you can say "its problem use X on keyboard?" but someties, its a problem... and there is much more noobs than pros... For me Druids not OP and dont nerf.
I agree make Jammy priest no transmute 1 level thats all. Also I dont agree Druids are weak only in enemy base, because very often enemy dispel my druids in middle map.
Message edited by Adam_CZ - Monday, 28-Jan-2013, 3:46 PM |
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