I support Palestine, you will think only because me and they are Muslims? Of course no! - first of all historically the place finaly was region of Palestine, which of course not only Muslims live there , also Christians and Jews after long religion wars was the peaceful place. - I hate the mass media calling Palestine people who fight for their homes and land •terrorists• - I hate that US government can say or critisize but doesn't do anything that needs to make region peacefull like before, they just can attack the countries and bomb peaceful citizens in Iraq, Libia,Afghanistan and other places.... - I hate that what's going with the world : Ukraine, Syria and other countries....
in Conclusion, all nations have bad people, I not hate Jews or christs, I just believe for peaceful future and hope it will come as soon as possible (No War No death) [UCW] is your future! :D [ucw.ucoz.net]
- I hate that US government can say or critisize but doesn't do anything that needs to make region peacefull like before, they just can attack the countries and bomb peaceful citizens in Iraq, Libia,Afghanistan and other places....
Please lift the forum ban on violence. Pretty please.
Soon the U.S. is going to have to declare bankruptcy.
That day will never come because 1. U.S. dominates the economy. If US goes bankrupt, the whole world would go bankrupt with it. 2. The more U.S. government goes bankrupt, the better the economy gets.... <= reason why USA doesn't care about bankruptcy. More debt = More jobs. Meaning, more mass weapons produced for Israel => More employment jobs => better economy 3. Well, the day that happens, pretty sure US would invade some rich country for money through some "war" against terrorism.
2. The more U.S. government goes bankrupt, the better the economy gets.... <= reason why USA doesn't care about bankruptcy. More debt = More jobs. Meaning, more mass weapons produced for Israel => More employment jobs => better economy
The U.S. debt is at about 17.6 trillion dollars right now. That averages at about 55 thousand dollars per citizen and 135 thousand dollars per taxpayer. When the country is in debt, the economy is poor, because taxes are raised higher. When taxes are raised higher, companies must lay employees off because they cannot afford to keep them. The higher the debt, the less jobs there are. There is a direct correlation there. Once we reach a certain amount of debt, we will have to declare bankruptcy. Contrary to popular belief, the dollar is losing value in the world, and countries have started trading and selling in their indigenous currencies. They have reached a point where they no longer rely on the dollar to sustain their economies.
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3. Well, the day that happens, pretty sure US would invade some rich country for money through some "war" against terrorism.
Sorry if I sound rude, but the way you put this makes it seem like there is no such thing as terrorism. The western world and people that have adopted western values are under constant threat of terrorism. I as an American are offended that you would imply such a thing. My great uncle died in the attacks of 9/11/01. My uncle has served for over 20 years with 6 tours of duty and he has 20 medals for the amount of missions he has flown(1 medal is 20 missions). He is on active reserve at this time. He has served honorably for his country to protect the freedom of my family, and the families of those oppressed in the Middle East. If the U.S. eventually steps into the Gaza situation there is a strong likelihood he will be redeployed to the Middle East. There is a war on terrorism and it is completely justified. I wish that it didn't have to be this way, but the most effective action is preemptive action against an opponent that is trying to blow you and your country into ashes.
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in Conclusion, all nations have bad people, I not hate Jews or christs, I just believe for peaceful future and hope it will come as soon as possible (No War No death)
I didn't catch this in your post before. I also wish that this was the case. This is what it needs to be. I am on the side of Israel because I personally believe that the only way it will get resolved is when extremists in the Muslim community(it is a very low percentage) are oppressed and contained. Right now extremists have found positions of leadership in many countries and have stated that they are going to kill as many Israelis and Americans as possible. The Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. Islamic State in Iraq and other countries. Iranian government in general(they have been related to terrorism for many years and support many extremist groups). The Assad regime AND Syrian Rebels(both have been proven to have extremist influences). Afghanistan and the Taliban. Various other Middle Easter and African countries.
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According to Transparency International, Iraq's is the most corrupt government in the Middle East, and is described as a “hybrid regime” (between a “flawed democracy” and an “authoritarian regime”).[31] The 2011 report "Costs of War" from Brown University's Watson Institute for International Studies concluded that U.S. military presence in Iraq has not been able to prevent this corruption, noting that as early as 2006, "there were clear signs that post-Saddam Iraq was not going to be the linchpin for a new democratic Middle East.
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3. Well, the day that happens, pretty sure US would invade some rich country for money through some "war" against terrorism.
Thought I would use this quote again to elaborate on why the Muslim extremist countries like Iraq and Saudi Arabi are rich. They are rich because of oil plain and simple. This is sad because the U.S. has oil. The U.S. funds terrorism indirectly by purchasing oil from specific countries in the middle east. I fund terrorism everyday in this aspect because I have to to keep my job. However, if the U.S. drilled for oil here in America, we would have enough oil to supply ourselves for thousands of years, and terrorism would decline.
Rosa I respect your intelligence and recognize you as a very intelligent person. I respect your views. I notice we have some of the same or similar views and goals for this world, but different visions on how they should be achieved. I respect yours and hope that all of you respect mine. I have tried to provide sufficient factual evidence to support my vision of what needs to happen.
I'll close by requoting the post from Assasin_West_BOD, a person I hold in high regard because of his tolerant views of people of other beliefs.
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in Conclusion, all nations have bad people, I not hate Jews or christs, I just believe for peaceful future and hope it will come as soon as possible (No War No death)
The U.S. debt is at about 17.6 trillion dollars right now.
Yay ! More jobs <3 Actually killer, the economy runs more like this: By creating debt, U.S. is able to in the short run "borrow" the money to create new jobs. Now the only problem with this is well....who's gonna pay the debt? My answer: No one.... lets keep delaying the debt problem for our great great grandsons xD I mean its only like 2-3 billion dollars of debt a day. Nothing much.. Nothing much
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because taxes are raised higher
In theory yes. However, reality is almost always different from theoretical world. Because politicians want to be elected, they almost always ignore the issue with tax. I mean, screw it! We can keep delaying it for our grandsons anyways! Thus, the idea of "Tax are rising higher" might work in theory but... it really isn't the case (U.S. is a country where people vote. And people vote their governors, etc. who are willing to ignore the tax issue ..for now)
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The higher the debt, the less jobs there are
And to subsidize that, we purposely create inflation..duhh
The main reason why American dollar is devaluing is cause of the cycle of this process. Debt is higher => People don't want to admit it => Elects those who are willing to delay the tax issue until the next "term" => Companies see debt number go up in U.S. so they are scared => U.S. purposely starts printing more money to bring more "security" => Inflation occurs and companies now have "spare" money => Companies can give the "spare" money to workers => More jobs
Now only problem with this cycle is that, every time we create inflation (printing off more money), globally, the U.S. dollar loses power. In some ways, we have to thank the debt BECAUSE it creates jobs. Without that debt (17.6 trillion or wtvr), most people would be jobless.. duhh How do you think we got out of Great Depression? Its called war + debt. Debt CREATES jobs in short run. I thought it was a known fact. By having "more money", the government can GIVE more to the people through "new jobs." Debt is really a necessity in every first world country.
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They have reached a point where they no longer rely on the dollar to sustain their economies.
This can never happen. Sorry but uhmm... the world still kinda runs on U.S. Okay, maybe China too now but U.S. dollar will always to some degree AFFECT the world. This is the main reason why everyone ignores the "debt" U.S. has. Because if U.S. declares they are bankrupt, the whole world economy gets FU1KED up. It would be worse than the Great Depression and it would be GLOBAL (everywhere across the globe). I know cause I live outside the States and trust me.... U.S. despite their devaluing of dollar still holds INCREDIBLE influence to the economic world.
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Sorry if I sound rude, but the way you put this makes it seem like there is no such thing as terrorism.
WTF? When did I say or imply there is no such thing as terrorism? Another blanket statement?!?!?
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They are rich because of oil plain and simple. This is sad because the U.S. has oil.
No sh1t. Everyone knows about oils. It's not something new. LOL And yes, the U.S. has lots of oil. The only reason why U.S. doesn't use it is because well, U.S. is playing smart. By not using the rest 65% of the oil in the country, the country can wait until every other nations lose their oil and THEN earn a huge profit by selling oil then. Basically, U.S. is purposely saving up oil and buying from others because they know that once oil internationally is gone, they hold the power to influence oil price globally on however they want to sell (They can even sell 100 dollars a gallon then..lol) MONOPOLY FTW!
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However, if the U.S. drilled for oil here in America, we would have enough oil to supply ourselves for thousands of years, and terrorism would decline.
No no...not thousands of years. You got to be kidding me. That's too much. LOL U.S. isn't drilling oil because it is that much of a scary country. I mean, which country actually waits until others' resources are gone just to profit $$$$$$ and then be able to control oil driven countries? U.S. is playing smart. Maybe that's how they plan to solve the debt issue. rofl
Anyways, most of U.S. debt come from U.S. itself so ehh.
Anyways, most of U.S. debt come from U.S. itself so ehh.
All of the U.S. debt belongs to the U.S. China and Japan own the majority of U.S. debt, and the U.S. is in debt to many countries that have declared bankruptcy(Greece, Spain, etc.,).
As much as I love talking about my economic philosophies and beliefs, that is not what this thread is about. I think we have said at this point all we can without repeating exactly what we have said on that topic, so I suggest we leave it alone for now.
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WTF? When did I say or imply there is no such thing as terrorism? Another blanket statement?!?!?
It was offensive to me when you said that the ONLY reason the U.S. was in the Middle East was for money. We have been protecting the people there for the last 15 years now. If we were not in the Middle East, terrorism would have become dominant at a world stage instead of just a scary demon waiting to be released.
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Where did you get this information? O.o I think you mean the opposite.
The Bible has been ruled historically accurate on the wars between Israel, Egypt, Palestine, Babylon, Rome, and others. The first 4 there are all centered in the Middle East. The only time the Jews were safe from those 3 nations was when they were taken captive by the Romans and Europeans. As soon as the Israelis were given their land back, they were attacked, repeatedly. They have been under constant fire for years from the entire Muslim community. Did you know that Iran has stated that as soon as they reach Nuclear Capacity they are going to nuke Israel? Spiders video explains it for you if you watch the whole thing.
Added (24-Jul-2014, 12:53 PM) --------------------------------------------- http://news.yahoo.com/jihadists-iraq-order-women-undergo-genital-mutilation-002205853.html Just another horrible thing done by a terrorist organization on its own people.
Added (24-Jul-2014, 1:12 PM) --------------------------------------------- http://news.yahoo.com/rockets-found-un-gaza-school-went-missing-010208751.html Confirmation of the words used in spideys video.
Just another horrible thing done by a terrorist organization on its own people.
"But several experts have speculated that the fatwa may have been a hoax, and a number of journalists said on Twitter that their contacts in Iraq had not heard of it being issued. Charles Lister, visiting fellow at the Brookings Doha Center and expert on Iraqi and Syrian extremist groups, said the UN claim appeared to be based on a "quite clearly faked statement"that began circulating online on Wednesday." This news is fake, I quoted the words above from the link you provided Go rage ban love child -This guy that loved me
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The U.S. debt is at about 17.6 trillion dollars right now. That averages at about 55 thousand dollars per citizen and 135 thousand dollars per taxpayer. When the country is in debt, the economy is poor, because taxes are raised higher. When taxes are raised higher, companies must lay employees off because they cannot afford to keep them. The higher the debt, the less jobs there are. There is a direct correlation there. Once we reach a certain amount of debt, we will have to declare bankruptcy. Contrary to popular belief, the dollar is losing value in the world, and countries have started trading and selling in their indigenous currencies. They have reached a point where they no longer rely on the dollar to sustain their economies.
no taxes have not been raised companies don't have to lay employees off because they cannot afford to keep them, they can instead offer them lower wages(if it ever gets to that point) when the debt is higher, he state(govt) tends to spend $$ to create jobs we will not declare bankruptcy, as rosa stated, too many countries depend on the us economy. im sure you know that the chiense government has purchased a good amount of us bonds, they know they have to help keep us afloat or their economy will also tank. indigenous currencies? don't you mean their national currencies? sure, the dollar isnt as mighty as it used to be due to the financial crisis, BUT it is stable, and that is what people take into consideration. STABILITY dictates where funding will be directed. beans, the US dollar does not sustain other economies, it is an investment to many of these countries.
i tend to agree with monster, the jews and muslims have caused many problems because they don't accept me as their true god. http://chf.ucoz.com/forum/71-3499-61942-16-1396993348
Message edited by ic3dt3a - Thursday, 24-Jul-2014, 4:13 PM
It was offensive to me when you said that the ONLY reason the U.S. was in the Middle East was for money. We have been protecting the people there for the last 15 years now. If we were not in the Middle East, terrorism would have become dominant at a world stage instead of just a scary demon waiting to be released.
"Protecting"? If they were actually protecting them then why are the number of casualties in Iraq so high? If protecting means killing them then I don't see how these so called terrorists are wrong Number of casualties in Iraq America just enters any country it wants and then it gives the excuse they want to save the country from terrorism. In 2011 they entered Pakistan stating they found Osama bin Laden they entered Pakistan's airspace WITHOUT AUTHORIZATION. America said they found Osama bin Laden and entered his so called estate and killed him but after that they only released one photo of his dead body which was proven to be fake. After killing him they dumped his body at sea assuming by themselves that no Muslim family would want his body. Mohammed al-Qubaisi, Dubai's grand mufti, stated: "They can say they buried him at sea, but they cannot say they did it according to Islam. If the family does not want him, it's really simple in Islam: you dig up a grave anywhere, even on a remote island, you say the prayers and that's it. Sea burials are permissible for Muslims in extraordinary circumstances. This is not one of them. The way America does things doesn't look like it's trying to save a country it looks more like it's doing things the way it wants, Iraq never asked America to come "save" it America just invaded Iraq on its own Go rage ban love child -This guy that loved me
