Anyway i kind of agree with ice towers maybe being a bit too good for their price, but the truth is theres a few other unstoppable hero combination's that need to be dealt with first other wise there would be no stopping them let alone some sort of fair defense against them in your own base.

Ice tower are meant as something to protect yourself with soon after mass, you can either get a cannon for 400 to kill your feed, or spend about 750 on ice and try to protect your feed, or do both. (750 because you need at least 3 ice towers to be semi safe) and pray to god your team mates will share control if pubs.

I have not much prob taking away a little hp and some spell resistance but theres much that needs to be done first to fix some imba maulers. They are by far the most unstoppable builds even though i dont like playing as them, they arnt my style.

Unstoppable hero combinations? Any time you have people who work together and you have skills that complement each other there will be incredibly powerful team builds and that will continue to be the case, which ones do you think are unstoppable? It's not a fair defense, the money required to mount that defense in comparison with the money required to break it is a ridiculous upset.

On your third paragraph think about that 750, If you spend 1,500 on offense it's not going to beat something that you spent 750 on on defense, that's a very severe ratio of defensive benefit to offensive, the more people playing who know how to play the game, the more turtling and difficult to attack the game becomes with things like newts (Also potentially too good for their cost) frost towers, etc. The cost benefit on frost towers is skewed to a great degree.

There are only a few imbalanced maulers and the version to which you refer *If you're talking about the one I play and some others play though less effectively* That has 1 skill which is effective at mass, tich meh, everything else is entirely useless. Even after the mauler's grown there are certain builds that outright stop it, I found recently that if you get level 13 and have silence you no longer have to fear maulers you can keep tabs on since you can preventatively keep them from activating shield, going avatar, or even attacking. IMO silence and lasso destroys maulers completely just most people have no clue how good silence is. Also IMO Maulers are the most unstoppable solo build, a lot of team builds are much stronger and really make maulers not worth it. Teamwork's the most imbalanced skill in this game, pooled tech is stronger than a mauler by far yet you're not nerfing units.

Is true though teamwork is what makes the largest span over the gap in power of different teams.. still tho..damn maulers.. loll

You just need to play a variety of builds, if you think someone's going mauler unholy silence lasso is infinitely powerful against them ^.^

whats a big difference in 250/300 gold? won't change much but ok

spell reduction maybe to 25-50% anyone who tech can take these towers easily anyways.

Antyone, In order to take out a frost tower with tiers you need to be enough ahead of them that you can likely kill their bases anyways as with the armor bonus frost towers have killing 2 frost towers can be harder than killing a tier 0 base for your units, if you're already significantly ahead with an army yes, but if you're on semi even ground no way.

yeah that is true. thats why i agreed on 25-50% spell reduce only.