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why you need to buff undead all tiers but 4 and 5
XXkillerbeansXXDate: Monday, 13-Feb-2012, 7:42 PM | Message # 1
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Yes I won this game by a mile, but i was playing all pubs, a feeder team, and didnt have my normal laggy mass. bond i skipped 2 tiers in this game because the tiers 2-3 of undead suck balls. tier one is only decent because they have fast attack and regen, but any 2 aoe combo will wipe them out easy. check this out and see why these units need a buff. i suggest adding a 20 hp per special upgrade to every race that doesnt have an hp upgrade. so u can upgrade hp on undead and on night elf cause night elf may be stron vs aoe, but they suck hard balls vs other tech. ofc if u add an hp upgrade to undead, you would also need to reduce starting health of t4 and t5 as they have the highest base health by 200-300 on t5.

Edit: forgot replay so here it is: http://www.mediafire.com/?n7bgt6cdlqqpx8v


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RosarioVampireZDate: Monday, 13-Feb-2012, 9:28 PM | Message # 2
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bond i skipped 2 tiers in this game because the tiers 2-3 of undead suck balls

This is why noobs stay noobs

There is a reason why Bond made everyone able to switch races each tier
And UNDEAD are not weak. They are the best counter against air. NOW plz... just because u cant use them.. doesnt mean they are cr4p

Yes tier 2 and 3 are horrible compared to other races but then, undead was always meant for AIR UNITS or BASEKILL RUSH

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but they suck hard balls vs other tech.

U MAD BRO? Ever heard of donation or vs CHIMS?
Also, spiders have NET ability and STUMP. This is highly useful at mass tp raid.
Skeletals have always been for donation and air and -uim

NOW PLZ.. RESEARCH BFORE SAYING CR4P
IF U DONT LIKE IT, GO TECH ANOTHER RACE!


 
ic3dt3aDate: Monday, 13-Feb-2012, 11:07 PM | Message # 3
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Quote (XXkillerbeansXX)
bond i skipped 2 tiers in this game because the tiers 2-3 of undead suck balls

This is why noobs stay noobs

There is a reason why Bond made everyone able to switch races each tier
And UNDEAD are not weak. They are the best counter against air. NOW plz... just because u cant use them.. doesnt mean they are cr4p

Yes tier 2 and 3 are horrible compared to other races but then, undead was always meant for AIR UNITS or BASEKILL RUSH

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but they suck hard balls vs other tech.

U MAD BRO? Ever heard of donation or vs CHIMS?
Also, spiders have NET ability and STUMP. This is highly useful at mass tp raid.
Skeletals have always been for donation and air and -uim

NOW PLZ.. RESEARCH BFORE SAYING CR4P
IF U DONT LIKE IT, GO TECH ANOTHER RACE!


since there are soo many air units: chims, phoenix, hawks, and bats, o wait bats can kill air units thats y thye were added, mana


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XXkillerbeansXXDate: Tuesday, 14-Feb-2012, 0:48 AM | Message # 4
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And UNDEAD are not weak. They are the best counter against air. NOW plz... just because u cant use them.. doesnt mean they are cr4p

use acid and chims and they cant counter air. ppl other then pubs dont use hawks. owls cant attack.
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This is highly useful at mass tp raid.
Skeletals have always been for donation and air and -uim

why wud u take skeles for dono? why not take spell breakers with more armor and upgradeable health + faster move speed. again same with mass tp, and feeding in -uim is actually a bad strat if ppl use their gold fast.

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or BASEKILL RUSH

again why not use raiders/berserkers/kodos instead of the other crap?
 
RosarioVampireZDate: Tuesday, 14-Feb-2012, 4:43 AM | Message # 5
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feeding in -uim is actually a bad strat if ppl use their gold fast.

I dont wanna live on this planet anymore...
If u didnt know, in uim, ur opponent gets LOW gold for MASS killings of SKELETAL MAGES. In other words, SKELETAL MAGES DEAD (UIM) GIVES MORE GOLD THAN THE AOE MASSER

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why wud u take skeles for dono?

Cause skeletals spawn faster. ORBITAL FACEPALM

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use acid and chims and they cant counter air.

Acid Chim counters any tier 2 and 3...
LMFAO

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again why not use raiders/berserkers/kodos instead of the other crap?

Pubs do this alot cause u can SPAM units with ward of god...


 
Legal_lifeDate: Tuesday, 14-Feb-2012, 10:07 AM | Message # 6
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Buff nelf t3 and undead t3 with a bit of hp
 
a_chinese_kidDate: Tuesday, 14-Feb-2012, 7:22 PM | Message # 7
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When people speak counter builds against tech is annoying you can't garuntee they will tech that and you can garuntee thy won't just change it
 
ic3dt3aDate: Tuesday, 14-Feb-2012, 10:15 PM | Message # 8
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When people speak counter builds against tech is annoying you can't garuntee they will tech that and you can garuntee thy won't just change it


i agree with you, its not liek the game is set with what races and what your plans are going to be at the start of the game and everyone can see. wc3 is an rts, u build ur strategy as u play. thats y i hate golems, because u can never know if some1 is going to get them, sure u can stay in tavern and wait and see if some1 gets unholy aura + roots/lasso and expect golems.. u also cannot really prepare for granite golem, best u can do is pool quick gold for arcane + turtle + newt + demolisher to kill it and HOPE u have a bill or explosion on your team.

tl;dr

you cant anticipate exactly what others are going to do


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Legal_lifeDate: Wednesday, 15-Feb-2012, 1:17 AM | Message # 9
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you shouldnt be able to see other peopls spells so its more mysterious
 
a_chinese_kidDate: Wednesday, 15-Feb-2012, 9:26 AM | Message # 10
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i agree with both of you guys. i mean theres always going to be a counter but people act like you will be prepared for every situation the best players are the ones that can adapt.

haha legal in every in-house or stacked team games it takes like an hour for the good players to take spells because everyones checking builds haha
 
SOUNDWAVESDate: Wednesday, 15-Feb-2012, 9:43 AM | Message # 11
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tier 5 UD are one of the best and t4 UD are not bad. cuz other t4 races arent that good compared to their price.
but under tier 4 suck a dick.
no need to discuss about counter bla bla bla
cuz they are natural born cock suckers.




Rest in Peace Rookies
 
RosarioVampireZDate: Wednesday, 15-Feb-2012, 10:40 AM | Message # 12
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no need to discuss about counter bla bla bla cuz they are natural born cock suckers.

As you can see... Im just trying to piss off Xxkillerbeansxx cause hes a mormonist
I guess u win xxkillerbeans..

ya..undead tier 3 is stupid and tier 2

Tier 2 is basically STUPIDER version of Rifles (lol?)
and ghouls = feed

*U win this one... although i still hate u for ur attack against my religion
freaking mormonists attacking other religions cause of a petty excuse saying MONSTER STARTED IT <= bs that sh3t


 
a_chinese_kidDate: Wednesday, 15-Feb-2012, 5:06 PM | Message # 13
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the thing is with undead I mean they are strong units but have no health and since theirs no health upgrade they are deemed useless. If they were human with low health at least you can upgrade their health......
 
XXkillerbeansXXDate: Thursday, 16-Feb-2012, 11:35 PM | Message # 14
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tier 5 UD are one of the best and t4 UD are not bad. cuz other t4 races arent that good compared to their price.
but under tier 4 suck a dick.

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i skipped 2 tiers in this game because the tiers 2-3 of undead suck balls. tier one is only decent because they have fast attack and regen, but any 2 aoe combo will wipe them out easy.
 
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