i havnt seen mr being complianed bout in a long time. this spell rlly isnt that op sure they can use ur stuff, but thats all they can do, they cant actually take it from you if ur gonna get a bit item then get what every1 said, ammy of spell shield or an invon pot not that hard the amount of counters to this skill is rather large n i dont even see it much in game It's not X you should worry about... It's me!!! Here I come!!!!!!!!!
You can say anything has counters, you can put tt with 1s cd and say it has counters like thors hammer, mana drain etc. We are discussing if its balanced that mr can use every usable item the hero carries. It affects gameplay alot especially in the beginning of non-ssd games when u dont have the constant flow of money and late gameplay when u can use for ex ward of gods or other item I am biwinning
Message edited by xifelol - Friday, 08-Jun-2012, 7:50 AM
Something you all forgot is they can ofc use items, but they can also learn spells, which is pretty fucked at levels 5, 9, 12, 15 with most of the actual used builds. Anyway I think it should have longer cd, this is it.
Using Mindrape takes no skill... it's such a pathetic spell. Controlling another persons hero and being able to USE THEIR ITEM is just retarded and stupid. I don't understand why someone would come up with such a horrific spell. Just please, make this game more safe for pubs and regulars. Just please...
Its one of the few ulti's that actually does take skill and micro to use to its fullest. Its one of the few that the better the player is the more use they will actually get out of this spell thus making it one of the most skillful spells. Also there is many spells that are far better than this spell so if i removed this spell i would have to remove like 7-8 other ulti's also.
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You can say anything has counters, you can put tt with 1s cd and say it has counters like thors hammer, mana drain etc. We are discussing if its balanced that mr can use every usable item the hero carries. It affects gameplay alot especially in the beginning of non-ssd games when u dont have the constant flow of money and late gameplay when u can use for ex ward of gods or other item
You are right by saying just because something has a counter doesnt make it truly 'balanced' but you also have to take into account the game play and what you are up against that game. By this i mean, if you know someone has explosion then you know to be careful about it.. you know that you better not take pengs to their base or a Night terror without first putting that hero to sleep or killing it first, that or you better take a healing ward of the gods with you lol. Or if someone picks treats or owls and a lot of stuff that can see inviz units its probably not wise to take ww that game, stuff like that.
MR is easily countered and in a lot of situations not even as useful as TT or yamato cannon can be in the regards of killing heros/units. One of its few useful times in using it on 1 peng to slow down their attack for a short time or using an item of high value but if the player is smart they wont let this happen, by either sleeping that hero/killing it or using a cheap divine pot on the way to their base along with maybe using an inviz pot.
In regards of what it does most the time on average and what it is potentially capable of in extreme rare situations its pretty balanced out, at most it could use a bit more cd time probably.
keep mind rape. its a fun and a creative spell that should stay in the game.
but remove torrential tribute. that spell is fucking retarded, takes zero skill, and cant be coutnered. i played a game yesterday where FOUR PEOPLE had torrential trbute, and i started talking trash to them and they ALL USED TT ON ME. I WAS PRETTY MUCH DEAD FOR OVER 50% OF THE GAME...fucking stupid ass spell
Just keep stunning your hero wit something like frost towers or etc or recall? I dont think it is OP, but I find my self it kinda annoying when I screw up sometimes and get MR while going to try hit pengs on enemy base
Dude if you are on a game and you know someone has MR, don't walk with a spensive item on your inventory thats just dumb. I've never lost an expensive item to MR, you just need to be careful
you DO realize someone can walk into a persons base and mr them right as the buy it dont you ? I suffer from a condition called dislexix disgraphia so please parden my spelling and typographical errors
its simple make mr not use peoples items or pick peoples skills , give it a shorter cooldown and make it do a little damage at the end when control transfers back
mr still usefull but not f#$king retarded I suffer from a condition called dislexix disgraphia so please parden my spelling and typographical errors
