I get your logic but they can climb up the ladder plus I can make it so on the pro bot you gain more elo. When all the noobs to pro they will also drop down aswell so it really counters each other.
sigh......random i give up
everyone understands these simple things except you me and bond and f00ty all agree, we are smart people. just listen to us. i already tried explaining 500 times but you miss the point of the whole elo system and everything we are saying. im sorry but this takes too much of my time
I can fix the leaderboard with a quick elo fix. I done it when the elo was screwed up ages ago. All I did was recalculated. You should of remembered.
you manually editing people's elos doesnt fix anything, it doesnt even remotely address the problem we're talking about lol...the only way to fix this problem is to have to ladders one with 0-0 1000 elo and one with same elo as now but cap of 1300 name: james mcgovern
its that the ELO AND WIN LOSS RECORD FROM THE NOOB BOT WILL BE USED TO CALCULATE NEW ELO ON THE PRO BOT Trust me it will work everything sill work together I get what you are saying that some people will lose more and gain more then others. I will add a x2 elo or something like that so if you play on pro bot you gain more elo. Or we can make it once you get to 1300 we can make sure that the noob bot will not effect the old elo. Get what I am saying. So from 1300 everyone will start "fresh". But if not it should logically work.
But you are forgetting one thing. This method is used to aid noobs get higher or catch up. So if it is unfair on pro bot so be it if a pro losses more then other pros.
no it won't and i just explained why in the posts right above that one
that's not even an argument its just a BS assertion
no offense but you have already screwed up ELO so much in the past year you will only make it worse by not listening to me and f00ty name: james mcgovern
Message edited by Cyray@USEAST - Sunday, 19-Jan-2014, 11:31 PM
Again this method is used to give pros a challange. Elo is too easy to climb thats what most people say. If we start fresh is is going to be harder for noobs to catch up. Lets say if we start fresh a person losses 5 elo. That's not alot for a noob to catch up but if we take old he will take 15. Now that I think about it if A person doesnt play on his main account for a while because he is scared to lose elo wil be deducted so it will force them to play. That fixes another problem.
This also give a sense of Challeng for pros that if they lose they will get to tier 2. Imagine noobs taking so long to get to 1300 and losing and get back down to 1200.
Again this method is used to give pros a challange. Elo is too easy to climb thats what most people say. If we start fresh is is going to be harder for noobs to catch up. Lets say if we start fresh a person losses 5 elo. That's not alot for a noob to catch up but if we take old he will take 15. Now that I think about it if A person doesnt play on his main account for a while because he is scared to lose elo wil be deducted so it will force them to play. That fixes another problem.
you completely miss the point go re-read what i wrote please
I don't think Random understands Cyray... I have feeling Random is gonna do his way again and fuq up ELO even more.
I mean look at him. He ignores our requests of removing admins of B3P and Adam_CZ even after continuously caught maphacking, harassing, abusing adminship, etc. Sigh,....I just wish Random would listen to the ACTUAL PLAYERS THAT PLAY for once.
On the flip side... I don't understand a thing Random wrote on message #160. :P
I already wrote why it is ok. But overall I think my modified idea is a great one.
Could you please give Cyray's idea a chance for once? Why not TRY the ELO style of Cyrays for the first three months? I already believe LONG LONG LONG time ago this 2 bot idea passed and YOU CLAIMED TO AGREE FOR 3 MONTHS. Never happened. Why? Cause you just behave your way at the end. Result?: More threads like this claiming ELO is EVEN MORE unbalanced.
Like Random, CAN YOU ACTUALLY LISTEN TO US FOR ONCE? You seem to agree EVERYTHING Cou and Bond says and NOTHING Cyray says. Like seriously, ...
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Again this method is used to give pros a challange. Elo is too easy to climb thats what most people say. If we start fresh is is going to be harder for noobs to catch up.
This method is so RANDOM it doesnt even make sense.
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But you are forgetting one thing. This method is used to aid noobs get higher or catch up. So if it is unfair on pro bot so be it if a pro losses more then other pros.