dont troll and dont try to tell me im wrong. im not.
granite golem is so op. requires no skill to operate is impossible to kill (if u have recall) and can counter strategies that require endlessly more skill and gold. for instance last game we were killing. we had the whole game completely dominated with massive level gap. then one of the spanish noobs had his team mass pool to get granite. I was creeping and had spent about 4k on creeps already he got granite golem and kill all of them in 1 stomp. He then fed on the other 2 teams with his indestructable tank that does massive aoe dmg until he had passed us in lvl. from his 3500 golem and NO skill or forthought whatsoever he was able to turn the tables and got t4 and tot. now why didnt my team counter? we did we got turtle 2 newts arcanes.... the whole shebang. however all that proved useless. he would walk into our base stomp twice killing everything then recall when we trapped. the other 2 teams had no clue how to counter and fed massively. no matter how good u r u cant stop this tank from feeding on them. only if u have the forsight to get explosions or yamatos can u kill the thing and even then it takes your whole teams coordination. U shouldnt have to change your entire teams builds because some scrub may mass pool for this unit. It is essentially uncounterable. This is one of the many cases where the only thing that makes chf balanced is the players own discretion. the only reason i dont get granite every game is because its over powered. there should be nothing in the game so powerful the only reason not to get it is because it ruins the game for others. whether or not the game is going to be ruined should not be left to the discretion of 12 players competing to win. The only way it appears to stop granite golem is for all 3 of the other teams to each defend their bases respectvely and ven then it is an ultimate defensive unit. just remove -.- or make a mode that forbids. or make its dmg severyly reduced and health/armor or not affectable by recall. anyway something must be done.
lotsa people havent read. they think they are good by saying "2 newts and arcanes" news flash doesnt work... recall noobs! and mr lvl 2 lasts like 15 seconds arcanes wont even kill in time... maybe 3 arcanes and lvl 3 mr but if u the other team RUSHES GG because its so DAMN CHEAP. then by the time ur lvl 11 they will have darks. ftl is completely dependant on this. stop the mexicans from dominating assasin cuz of golem rush
TO THOSE OF U THAT SAY REMOVE MAGIC IMMUNE. MAGIC IMMUNE DOESNT MATTER! even if it takes magic dmg recall stops death. ALWAYS. if it has more than 1500 hp then recall will keep it alive. REMOVE THE DAMN GOLEM. also whats up with the fucking stomp? it basically perma stuns and does SHIT TONES of dmg. get over it! it is a aspect of the game That failed. just revert back to before it existed!
Message edited by Manic - Wednesday, 23-May-2012, 6:37 PM
Force field, the spell that everyone one has Mind rape, u can kill it before they get it back at Lvl 2 Kill your feed Arcane
I like 3.5k because I can use them well with hk and uk
Trust me, I stopped stacked team and a few FAMOUS teams with just 1 sh3tty g golem they do all this sh3t but at end, recall just fks it all off with 300 hp left and by the time it dies, enemy already dominated game
Summary: G golem has no counter. First to get, will almost always win unless its an inhouse where everyone gets frost arcanes mr and pure maim G golem is op cause of the dmg it does in aoe. It should by gold (comparing to 15k night terror), do lvl 1-2 stump. No more. A freaking night terror does like what? 2 dmg per sec with immo? THIS SH3T DOES 100000000000000000000000 DMG PER SEC WITH IMMO Also, g golems are impossible to kill early game (And some late games too). why? CAUSE IT FREAKING TPS, IMMUNE TO MAGIC, NVR DIES, HAS THAT RETARDED IMMOLATION, HAS OPPED LVL 5 STUMP (seriously bond?), AND DOES MORE SH3T
And im saying this cause I lost to g golems cause of gay recall even when my team and me had 4 ff going and deadly wards, and 2 turtles, and 2 newts, and arcane and frost so jajajjajaja (btw. this is only reason ftl can win. If g golems were severely nerfed, u will c mexicans raging..lol)
one way to fix could be, by increasing golem hp, lowering cost(?) but removing magic resistance
the moment g golem does 2-3 stumps, he already made more than 3.5k other words
this is what u do: change hp to 1500 make it take 30% of magic dmg impossible to recall and lvl 2 stump and immolation of 2 dmg per sec cost: 2.9k instead of 3.5k
Message edited by RosarioVampireZ - Tuesday, 22-May-2012, 6:15 AM
Granite golem sucks. There are so many counters without hero skills. Just Turtle / 2 newts / Arcane (or 2 arcane if you can) / Deadly wards. Then they recall? Your problem, you have to hit at the good time. Wait untill the guy feeds somewhere and make him use recall. Then turtle it and golem is done.
kk both of u, join a game where I CONTROL THE FREAKING G GOLEM I bet u will cry since i usually get 2-3 vaults with peasant already WITH recall (with spell shield too)
then go QQ cause THERE IS NO COUNTER TO G GOLEMS HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO RAGE? THERE IS NO COUNTER
honestly the simple fix is to remove immunity from them and just give them a moderate magic resistance instead I suffer from a condition called dislexix disgraphia so please parden my spelling and typographical errors
change hp to 1500 make it take 30% of magic dmg impossible to recall and lvl 2 stump and immolation of 2 dmg per sec cost: 2.9k instead of 3.5k
.. im not sure you realize that 2 stomp does like 350 damage 2 dmg persecond with about 80 damage against you per second would do nothing if you only have 1500 health too. 2 dmg persecond is weak shit you act like you know everything but this one post alone proves you dont know shit. anyone can find a glitch if they play 24/7 against computers and just against no bodys.
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honestly the simple fix is to remove immunity from them and just give them a moderate magic resistance instead
just to clear up some facts, the granite golem does about 35 dmg a sec but takes mana and the night terror takes no mana and does 45 dmg/s
wasnt sure the best way to nerf it a bit to make it more fair but was thinking of making its price be like from 3.5 to 4k and cut the mana it has in half so it cant just be an endless powerhouse of feed killing, it has 1000 mana with a 5 mana/s regen so it would help a bit to cut it in half at least, also the immolation only takes like 7m/s. I could also just go with the removing of magic immune but it would seem weird
.. im not sure you realize that 2 stomp does like 350 damage
this juts shows how retarded u are Go learn english
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lvl 2 stump
OH WAIT. CH3NKS DONT KNOW ENGLISH. KK HERES MY SH3TTY TRANSLATION FROM GOOGLE TRANSLATE JUST FOR U 学习英语新手上路 LEVEL 2 STUMP DOES NOT MEAN 2 STUMPS. I CANT BELIEVE SOME PPL ARE SO STUPID
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if you only have 1500 health too. 2 dmg persecond is weak shit you act like you know everything but this one post alone proves you dont know shit.
granite golem is not meant for feed. its WAS just meant to be stunning mass units all at once and being a meat unit. Please...i didnt know this till i started ladder and researched what some huge hp was for. SERIOUSLY, U WANT A FREAKING 3.5K HAVING INFINITE HP WITH FKED UP IMMOLATION? No wonder no on takes immolation now. Would rather get g golem and have $$$ and lvls
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.. im not sure you realize that 2 stomp does like 350 damage 2 dmg persecond with about 80 damage against you per second would do nothing if you only have 1500 health too. 2 dmg persecond is weak shit you act like you know everything but this one post alone proves you dont know shit. anyone can find a glitch if they play 24/7 against computers and just against no bodys.
* ch3nese_immature_idiot doesnt know english *immolation is unnecessary with a fked up cheap unit *ya. its overpriced. i know. but u know why? SO PEOPLE WONT USE THIS SH3T. Im tired of freaking g golems. All i do is send 1 golem, and even the dream team and sound's epic team faces QQ.
of course if u really wanna balance it: *2.75k hp *lvl 3 stump *lvl 2 immolation *non recallable *armour type to take extra dmg to piercing *immune to magic 68% (cause its a golem..cmon. no idiot wants a golem that dies by nova) and fyi chinese kid, G GOLEM DOESNT EVEN NEED HP. All ppl do is healing wave or ff or healing ward or unholy aura NEAR the g golem and ... ITS IMBA i can pwn mass units with just 2 blank golems. And GUESS WHAT! IT HAS LIKE 450-500 HP! and LESS ARMOUR so how u expect PUBS to wins over infinity hp (hero)/mana (pet) golem with endless stump? *same gold (if this is like this)
Message edited by RosarioVampireZ - Tuesday, 22-May-2012, 11:36 PM
kk both of u, join a game where I CONTROL THE FREAKING G GOLEM I bet u will cry since i usually get 2-3 vaults with peasant already WITH recall (with spell shield too)
then go QQ cause THERE IS NO COUNTER TO G GOLEMS HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO RAGE? THERE IS NO COUNTER
Let's do this game. I can tell my mate to take FF, we'll have 2 arcanes, tichmeh + 3 newts, and as I'm not so stupid I would have taken Divine + Charm and I will be in your base to charm your peasant(s) when the granite will have half of his life or less.
If this unit needs a nerf, it's just a little nerf, not a big nerf as you're saying. First, his movement speed is FUCKED UP. This unit sucks without unholly or endurance, especially in bases if there are frost towers. Then, if you think it's still too imba, kill the pet that is folowing the granite, get drailliance and this is it. You don't believe me, you say this spell sucks? Ahah. I know it doesn't really helps you to get kills, so you don't see how it's usefull, but believe me, your enemies will feel it, especially a granite without pet.
And then... ARE YOU KIDDING ME? YOU WANT THE GRANITE GOLEM NOT TO BE MAGIC IMMUNED? LOL this is a joke... After this, how to kill a granite golem? Easy. One takes banish, and then everyone aoes. GRANITE PWNED. Completly idiot nerf, especially if this useless new granite golem costs almost 3k.
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*2.75k hp
So you would just have to attack it a little bit and then to do yamato level 3 and it would die? Uhm.
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*non recallable
Don't forget that to recall, you need vault + peasant + amulet, which is almost 1k. So recalling an unit isn't free, don't forget it. Plus, as you said, you buy several vaults, and you have to buy other peasants (and even other amulets if the hero stealed them) if someone xmutes them while you're not in base.
Anyway, don't take it personally, but your idea is completly retarded. If the granite needs a nerf, it would be like 7 of food instead of 6 and 4k gold, not more... maybe just -200 mana.
hahahaha i love like all pussys dont like granite golems hahahahaha is a fucking simple golem if u guys cant kill it are patetic so stop talk about remove and first learn to play and use utils on lvl 6 so u can see this golems is like a fucking flower die really easy B) B) That's easy. If someone wins, the fighting will end.
Message edited by shinkirou - Wednesday, 23-May-2012, 1:08 AM
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