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ic3dt3aDate: Wednesday, 30-Jan-2013, 5:43 PM | Message # 16
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Speaking of charm do u guys think its kinda op that lvl 3 charm basically have 1-2 second cd to maybe 5 sec cd? or should it be timed with a 1-2 cd where if u charm a creep/unit theres a time limit to having them rather than forever?


thats reserved for darks biggrin


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O_o]-PrincipVDate: Thursday, 31-Jan-2013, 7:43 AM | Message # 17
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too xmute lvl 1  catapult , demolishing understand me ? biggrin


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FirNesSDate: Thursday, 31-Jan-2013, 8:54 AM | Message # 18
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Let charm like it is. Atm no one uses it even if it can be op and well, a disturbing charmer can be fucked by rod of envy

 
lspiderlDate: Thursday, 31-Jan-2013, 10:55 PM | Message # 19
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not that his is a thread to discuss charm but i think id rather see charm with  longer cooldown t max level but a small aoe


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FirNesSDate: Friday, 01-Feb-2013, 9:57 AM | Message # 20
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not that his is a thread to discuss charm but i think id rather see charm with  longer cooldown t max level but a small aoe
No. It already costs like 150 of mana so you can't really abuse of it. Plus people can get thors / rods of envy. And don't forget that charm is mainly usefull against darks. Against a golemer you need to be lvl 16 to use it on golems, and it's pretty hard if the golemer is good.

Srsly if we had to change charm it'd only be to buff it not to nerf it, atm NO ONE takes charm, people would rather get reincarnation nowadays.


 
LamsauceDate: Friday, 01-Feb-2013, 3:18 PM | Message # 21
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charm is a troll spell lol but people on my team usually get xmiute and they get mad ^.^



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ic3dt3aDate: Tuesday, 21-Jan-2014, 10:40 PM | Message # 22
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nerf coil on shamans: heals undead 700 or deals 350 damage, this is not needed for people can choose aoes/nukes to hit the halp meh hero now

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F00ty_R3b0rnDate: Tuesday, 21-Jan-2014, 11:17 PM | Message # 23
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(Heals undead could be 600) and deals 300 dmg instead of 350. You can nerf it to 275 dmg but don't nerf it too much or there is no point to buy shaman.
Also Shaman shouldn't be able to heal undead hero.

And I would like to see a "super goatzilla" and "super priest" just like there is a Joza. Cost 850
The Goatzilla Could have holy light with 700 heal and 350 dmg vs undead. Wouldn't be op at all because in total will cost 850 + 500.

(It's already in my doc, with better description but I write it again there cause I think it has to be added biggrin )

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No point to get charm for now, huge risk, not efficient.
Also charm at lvl 1 should work on lizzard, wizzard, priest, Shaman, rock golem, turtle, newt, etc. = works on all things under < 600 gold
Would balance a lot CHF game because actually if you rape mass with gay spells like serpt and flame strike you can buy mass creep and win easly without any skills needed. So it could counter that and add also more strategy and game style.

Then for lvl 2 and lvl 3 reduce mana cost and CD.


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Message edited by F00ty_R3b0rn - Tuesday, 21-Jan-2014, 11:06 PM
 
TangerineSkyDate: Wednesday, 22-Jan-2014, 0:13 AM | Message # 24
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Shaman is perfect as is, if anything slightly nerf coil and change to a different looking coil that can target all heros not just undead, this would take away healing for undead heros too if this is considered op


 
F00ty_R3b0rnDate: Wednesday, 22-Jan-2014, 0:28 AM | Message # 25
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Quote TangerineSky ()
Shaman is perfect as is, if anything slightly nerf coil and change to a different looking coil that can target all heros not just undead
It can be good but in that case that spell should only able to do 300 dmg. And don't heal heroes or it's will be way to op in early game !


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Message edited by F00ty_R3b0rn - Wednesday, 22-Jan-2014, 0:28 AM
 
Adam_CZDate: Wednesday, 22-Jan-2014, 3:49 AM | Message # 26
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Shamans is not OP. I started practice shamans 3 or 4 days ago with build nova,bolt and banish but i am very slow and my micro suck. And i still cant figure out which way is better "ctrl 1 hero + ctrl 2 shaman" or "hero and shaman together and only TAB". If i pick banish and buy shaman on UCW bot (full of noobs) i can kill for example 20 heroes in few minutes. But get shaman on HPMM bot is very bad idiea because he die very fast (roots and flamestrike, lasso and units, druids.... etc) shaman is weak (very low HP) i think they dont need nerf. Also shaman is very slow and if you buy undead frenzy soul it will not help you much, you need non stop use scroll of speed.

Shamans are really weak you can watch legendary replay "Adam vs AccCreate": http://playchf.tk/game/99725/ how many times AccCreate said on forum "I have good micro and I am TOP 5 in CHF" in this replay you will see AccCreate picked banish, cold strike and frost nova + buy shaman, but i killed his hero and shaman with my druids level 1 so easy (and QQCreate hero was 3 levels higher than mine)

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I think pick shaman is good idea only if you have undead hero (for heal) but there is not just 1 hero "secret" for codes. Thats why i said to Bond many times make Vexslasher secer hero. Pick undead Bond with shaman build is stupid idea because blink and banish is both hotkey "B".


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ZiZi-____-ZiZiDate: Wednesday, 22-Jan-2014, 4:50 AM | Message # 27
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Quote ic3dt3a ()
nerf coil on shamans: heals undead 700 or deals 350 damage

It would be good :

Heals undead 350 hp or deals 200 damage this is normal.
This is my opinion only. biggrin


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Adam_CZDate: Wednesday, 22-Jan-2014, 5:32 AM | Message # 28
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Heals undead 350 hp or deals 200 damage this is normal.This is my opinion only.

Why nerf shamans? They are weak - you can kill them very easy because they have very low HP. They are also very slow (without scroll of speed they are totally useless). All we need is only nerf Bob the newt (make him xmutable in level 11/16).
 
F00ty_R3b0rnDate: Wednesday, 22-Jan-2014, 5:33 AM | Message # 29
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Adam, it's because you don't use properly shamans.
For example look this replay :
http://www.mediafire.com/downloa....rou.w3g

I got like 25 HK in 15 min. I Killed uncountable times stom, shink and lord and my shaman only died once. This was clavardage


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CouDate: Wednesday, 22-Jan-2014, 5:35 AM | Message # 30
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I Killed uncountable times stom, shink and lord and my shaman only died once. This was clavardage

lmfao and earned a granite as a reward :d




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