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I've come to realize many ppl dont actually like Balance
Legal_lifeDate: Thursday, 16-Feb-2012, 9:27 PM | Message # 16
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este es un ejemplo de lo que mi título es .. PPL no me gusta el equilibrio

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(Varys% que con habilidad / conocimientos) no tengo nada contra PPL microing arrastra la masa o golems, etc. , pero soy sólo lo que la dificultad de su uso tan duro como lo es para hacerles frente ahora. lo mismo con lo que hice con CpC Sé que algunos no les gustó, pero los juegos son mucho mejores ahora que se requiere t3 y mucho más equilibrada, porque de eso. Si se le olvida por qué y de atención, u puede leer esto . También hice aficionado a nova para los modos clásicos, antiguos y nuevos 76 5,4 conjunto héroes construye


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XXkillerbeansXXDate: Thursday, 16-Feb-2012, 11:31 PM | Message # 17
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If 3 food ends up being overkill also i can always adjust things next ver and make it only 2 food, this is the first version with this new method so it will take another version to be perfect im sure.

i havent checked out 4.0 yet, but it sounds like there is a food limit. im not sure if this is already being done but can u make food limit go up by 2 per tier? then u still have to tier 2 times to get 1 more golem = nearly 3k gold for 1 golem.
 
RosarioVampireZDate: Thursday, 16-Feb-2012, 11:43 PM | Message # 18
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HOW COULD YOU SAY THT! U need to RESEARCH first!! granite easy to kill!!! just get newt + towers + turtle!! thats why id ont play anymore, noobs dont kn ow how to play!!!

<3 the food limit, golem noobs = no more

havnt really got a chance to do anything else, games too quick


Tried out new version, and there is basically no change and granite is IMPOSSIBLE to kill when noobs mass pool and have like 2 after mass (Seriously, havent u heard of clan apf and their mass poolings with 2 hero?)

Food Limit I tried = THE MOST USELESS SH3T EVER
A golemmer only needs 2 to 3 golems if they know what they are doing so this case.... is retardely useless unless u always go like 100000000000000000 golems

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i havent checked out 4.0 yet, but it sounds like there is a food limit. im not sure if this is already being done but can u make food limit go up by 2 per tier? then u still have to tier 2 times to get 1 more golem = nearly 3k gold for 1 golem.

OMFG DO U EVER READ BOND;S DESCRIPTIONS? IT GOES UP PER TIER. FREAKING STOP POSTING IF U DONT WANT TO READ THE CHANGES!

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nearly 3k gold for 1 golem.


Freaking i would rather save another 500 and gget granite golem like clan apf if ur calculations are THAT dumb biggrin
(950 + 500 DOES NOT EQUAL 3000 GOLD)

Seriously.. xxkillerbeansx, i know ur nice and all, but u troll around forums without knowing u are




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shinkirouDate: Thursday, 16-Feb-2012, 11:49 PM | Message # 19
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que no era mi única intención con este :/ balance de lo nuevo me refiero a la razón por la que fue posible ejecutar el juego haciendo ese tipo de cosas de todas formas fue porque están tan dominados en los números .. Así que sólo porque algunas personas han conseguido empleo a usar y abusar de algo y les resulta divertido significa que nunca debe conseguir el equilibrio? Sólo digo que, como algo en que pensar desde un ángulo diferente, como un ejemplo que no tenía planes para que la estrategia que se ha ido por completo, yo sólo quería hacer un poco más difícil de lograr y de masas que tan rápido, porque para muchas personas de su mucho más difícil de contrarrestar que se está haciendo lo que hay que hacer. Y como dije antes cada persona tiene un 12% el control de un juego, pero a causa de esas fortalezas golems y la capacidad es que dan una persona como el 35% de control sobre el mapa en la masa números, por lo menos theres más de 1-2 personas en el mapa eso es capaz de contrarrestar, así, se gana fácil si tres alimentos termina siendo una exageración también que siempre se puede ajustar las cosas la próxima versión y que sea sólo el 2 por comida, esta es la primera versión con este nuevo método por lo que requerirá otra versión para ser im perfecta seguro.


yap myabe can be more balanced but suck man why normal golems need 3 mybe 2 and granaty 6 its ok but 3 normal that isnt balennces cause normal =500 and grannaty 3500 what balanced maybe u can chagen for normal golems =2 food



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a_chinese_kidDate: Friday, 17-Feb-2012, 0:27 AM | Message # 20
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Seriously.. xxkillerbeansx, i know ur nice and all, but u troll around forums without knowing u are

and i thought you quit
 
Cheesy-GordiaDate: Friday, 17-Feb-2012, 0:43 AM | Message # 21
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Imma rush this so shit may not come out as I would want it specified.

Okay. Just by looking at this. 90% of you don't know what the fuck you're doing and pulling shit our of your ass.

You all talk about goleming like it happens every freaking day, when the truth is this is seen now like 1/100 of the games we play. You know why? THEY REALLY.

Its also just completely silly just seeing bitch about golems being invincible when the hidden truth is, we buy shit every single game that is mean't to counter golems easily....... Its hard for me too even pull the strategy off successfully because unlike this community, the south american players actually know wtf to do. I suggest you learn from them if you haven't already.

Golems are extremely easy to kill with just plain physical attacks since YOU CANNOT UPGRADE ARMOUR, and if you get devotion with, you've also fucked yourself for the fact if your golem are surrounded you can't escape fast enough. Physical attacks rape especially if they are siege attacks but alot of you all seem too be too fucking stupid/lazy and then at the end of the game you bitch about golems when the truth is you didn't fucking wake up and you were just too lazy too click some buttons. Just because this strategy can be excellent for preventing other heroes from leveling don't make these unstoppable. Im having absolutely no problem facing these because im not a plain retard who gives up too early.
People tech has been buffed hard, so uh, USE IT????? Plus golems are supposed to be a stun advantage for people who have none, seeing itll be pointless since we have too spend much more gold too get this strategy on its feet is stupid. I dont think alot of you realize, 3 golems cant do shit. Theoretically it should perma stun but it just work that way. Also want too know who says golems are for noob?, people who've never used them or used them well... Its exactly like the quote "money doesn't buy you happiness" when the ironic part is rich people always say this.

Im gonna drop a hardcore truth bomb. The best counter for golems as of now, by far batriders. Why? These bitches are fast, cheap, have low cooldown, siege attack, you only need 4 too take on 3 golems.

I seriously think alot of you are just bitching now because you like too...




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You don't are pro - Adam_CZ


Message edited by Cheesy-Gordia - Friday, 17-Feb-2012, 0:48 AM
 
RosarioVampireZDate: Friday, 17-Feb-2012, 0:53 AM | Message # 22
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Im gonna drop a hardcore truth bomb. The best counter for golems as of now, by far batriders. Why? These bitches are fast, cheap, have low cooldown, siege attack, you only need 4 too take on 3 golems.

learned this from uber

and ppl say golemming is gay when they are losing against it
AND WHEN THEY TRY FIRST TIME, THEY SAY THEY ARE PROS..how ironic like
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Its exactly like the quote "money doesn't buy you happiness" when the ironic part is rich people always say this.


Freaking golems arent that cheap. Its the fact that u guys really cant counter anything
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south american players actually know wtf to do

idk about this cause they always JAJAJA and leave..lol

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People tech has been buffed hard, so uh, USE IT????

Srry but chf footies in this forum doesnt know tech. They just complain but all they do is get useless recipes and useless aura
(9 out of 10 chf clan member gets brilliance aura in a game with divine and healing.. and they complain golems beating them. ITS CAUSE UR BUILD IS FREAKING STUPID, NOT THE FACT THAT GOLEMS ARE OP)

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Brilliance aura is the stupidest spell in normal game unless ur jaina and u have HUGE support
FREAKING STOP GETTING STUPID SPELLS AND STUPID TIERS (why u fking go ghouls or archers?)


 
Cheesy-GordiaDate: Friday, 17-Feb-2012, 0:53 AM | Message # 23
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Its exactly like the quote "money doesn't buy you happiness" when the ironic part is rich people always say this.

Freaking golems arent that cheap. Its the fact that u guys really cant counter anything


dude that was just a quote people use IRL im not referencing the game when I said that




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RosarioVampireZDate: Friday, 17-Feb-2012, 0:54 AM | Message # 24
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http://chf.ucoz.com/forum/20-1489-1#25696
THERE NOW STOP COMPLAINNING when ppl uses golems like me


 
Cheesy-GordiaDate: Friday, 17-Feb-2012, 0:56 AM | Message # 25
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Too top it off with batriders people, if you're facing a guy with an aoe, lets take nova for example. I want you too do a move on top of his golem army known as "the magic box" Instead of clumping your shit up, split them up so it will take longer to kill them all at once



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You don't are pro - Adam_CZ
 
RosarioVampireZDate: Friday, 17-Feb-2012, 0:56 AM | Message # 26
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Against golems, just freaking rush grunts or footies with newt and speed scroll
GAME OVER OR JUST FREAKING GET LIZZ WITH TP POT

or just spam summons like i do since summons RAPE golems


 
Cheesy-GordiaDate: Friday, 17-Feb-2012, 0:57 AM | Message # 27
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Or bring a mana dragon as a way too stop the hero from casting on your riders, so the only thing he can do is resord to physical attacks

People its not rocket science, its just your lack of creativity that stops you from thinking of how too counter strategies.




I hate this n***a actin like jesus - SOUNDWAVES

You don't are pro - Adam_CZ


Message edited by Cheesy-Gordia - Friday, 17-Feb-2012, 0:58 AM
 
RosarioVampireZDate: Friday, 17-Feb-2012, 1:06 AM | Message # 28
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What i dont get is that every chf member gets mindrape and they nvr think of mindraping golems

3 mr in 1 team vs 2 golems
HMMMMMMM..................lmao

Funny how pros like Cheesy gives tips for us and u guys ignore them. Maybe thats why u nvr improve?????? Dont tell me u only improved cause u play 24/7 since i KNOW u play more than me now
i go 1 to 3 games a day or 1 a week now.

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Tip against all summons and golems:

JUST BUY THE FREAKING NEW ITEM IN THE SECRET SHOP
sells unlimited mindrape for 2k <= full pool and ur DONE

badum tssssssssssss!




Message edited by RosarioVampireZ - Friday, 17-Feb-2012, 1:00 AM
 
XXkillerbeansXXDate: Friday, 17-Feb-2012, 1:08 AM | Message # 29
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only improved cause u play 24/7 since i KNOW u play more than me now
i go 1 to 3 games a day or 1 a week now.

funny thing is, you said u gave away your laptop and only was able to post on forums because of your smart phone.

now to the thread: bond originally everyone will hate your balance and stuff, we all learn that its better to keep people playing though.
 
RosarioVampireZDate: Friday, 17-Feb-2012, 1:14 AM | Message # 30
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2k to solve out infinity golems and more

btw. The new 2.1k excallibar seems stupid at first, but then i came to realize in normal at mauling
when u need desperate lvls, that 2.1k will give u lvl
problem: 1 root or anything that stuns or sleeps just ruined 2.1k

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bond originally everyone will hate your balance and stuff, we all learn that its better to keep people playing though.


grammar mistakes and doesnt make sense and i nvr said i wouldnt play from my school mac

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and i did alot to balance this game and THIS FORUM (like the chatbox

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golems arent op as they used to
Its not like we can get 8 golems bfore mass by zep like fallen did long ago

plz... xxkillerbeans, i know u played for a long time but check ur stats and mine
say !stats proglitcher in assasin-bot
over 90 percent and the rest percentage lost by !drop since i kept winning

out of 40 game, won 36, 4 drops
ur stats? a few hundred, 0 wins, 0 drops, 10000000000000000000 loss


 
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