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FireHartDate: Saturday, 17-Nov-2012, 9:31 AM | Message # 16
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On CHF-bot(the less laggy bot) it says more balanced than 5.4. That is total bs. The secret heroes the stats codes the spells omg it really is bulsh1t

 
FirNesSDate: Sunday, 18-Nov-2012, 8:45 AM | Message # 17
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Give dark dryads

Endurance/Trueshot/Max Upgrade/Command/Bloodlust/Inner Fire/Speed/3 k scrol
(and every other aura)
and EACH dark dryads hit MORE than 1000 dmg (if u have acid and tichmeh and howl of terror on top of this...negative armour + 1000 dmg = gg)

U guys should really try out the secret shop scrolls
Their scroll of beast and protection are amazing
^^

When I said they were enough, I meant that they didn't need any buff.


 
FireHartDate: Sunday, 18-Nov-2012, 11:17 AM | Message # 18
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He ment the buffs u can get from heroes like dark flame and bloodlust

 
XXkillerbeansXXDate: Sunday, 18-Nov-2012, 11:24 AM | Message # 19
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All flying:
Night elves - chims/hypogryphs
Orc - wyverns/wind riders
Human- dragon hawk/flying machines
Undead-frost wyrm/gargoyles
Eitelian-gryphons

im too lazy to go find the thread, but this has been suggested probably 100's of times. even these exact tiers layout. we've also had numerous suggestions for new races.
 
FirNesSDate: Sunday, 18-Nov-2012, 12:41 PM | Message # 20
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On CHF-bot(the less laggy bot) it says more balanced than 5.4. That is total bs. The secret heroes the stats codes the spells omg it really is bulsh1t

CHF is a very unbalanced game but it's still 100x more balanced than 5.4.
5.4 just sucks. You get human tier 1 and then you can hk / bk so easily. It's like tier 1 is better than tier 2. And you tell me the game is more balanced? Lol.


 
F00ty_R3b0rnDate: Sunday, 18-Nov-2012, 5:32 PM | Message # 21
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After -test afk make it possibles to do -gold "color" + -wood "color". With -test afk you didn't get wood of your allies.

Current CHF APM ! The Legend is R3b0Rn !
http://imageshack.com/a/img401/3523/vzsc.png

 
XXkillerbeansXXDate: Sunday, 18-Nov-2012, 5:41 PM | Message # 22
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CHF is a very unbalanced game but it's still 100x more balanced than 5.4.

actually chf is more balanced. but very overpowered... i think i made the reverse argument awhile ago but changed my mind. chf is more balance cause every1 can go op builds, on 5.4 if you got fox jaaod lich or grim you could dominate so easy, other then that it was balanced.
 
RosarioVampireZDate: Tuesday, 20-Nov-2012, 11:42 AM | Message # 23
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Tried firestrike today. Pure sh3t without ww or team
Wheres all the commotion about firestrike being op coming from?

Comparing to nova and all those other bs spells (swarm, acid, etc), FIRESTRIKE isnt op
Actually, just leave fire strike the way it is

I logged in to some random account named hato_up and tried goleming with it. 2 idiots in my team who got evasion and critical and (idk 3rd skill, i failed mass cause of those 2 idiots so they couldnt lvl)
I shulda have figured out. The team with Unholy and AOE ALWAYS win in this freaking game

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actually chf is more balanced. but very overpowered.

More balanced? Oh b3tch plz, whats more balanced than 9 aoe vs 9 evasions/criticals?
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chf is more balance

in chf, MICRO means sh3t. In footies, micro means SOMETHING

do u see this kind of tricks in chf? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nrmZxSWJDE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFPdKgApI28&feature=related
thought so. why? Cause 99% of the players in chf here called "pros" cant even micro for their life. Only exceptions currently is sound and nihob. No IM NOT S3CKING ON THEM. Sound was rank 1 in asia for ladder prior to chf.




Message edited by RosarioVampireZ - Tuesday, 20-Nov-2012, 11:57 AM
 
ic3dt3aDate: Tuesday, 20-Nov-2012, 11:55 AM | Message # 24
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Quote (RosarioVampireZ)
Tried firestrike today. Pure sh3t without ww or team
Wheres all the commotion about firestrike being op coming from?


u've got to be kidding... firestrike ll 6 can hk a lvl 20 int hero coupled with either acid or a stun

lvl 6 firestrike + lvl 6 root= dead bloodmage, archmage, kid, etc, all those heros with under 1500 hp


http://chf.ucoz.com/forum/71-3499-61942-16-1396993348
 
RosarioVampireZDate: Tuesday, 20-Nov-2012, 12:06 PM | Message # 25
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u've got to be kidding... firestrike ll 6 can hk a lvl 20 int hero coupled with either acid or a stun

Thats 2 spells. Same can happen for acid firestorm with ice shard/roots/bolt combined

Also, this spell takes time for the dmg to occur. Instant spells > spells that take 3-6 seconds
during that 3-6 sec, u could lose ur kill OR get dmged by ur own spell

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Sick replay of warden in 5.4
Why cant chf be more of this style if the spells gonna be op?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tckkZ4THyR0

At least the apm here is crazy. (This guy has high apm outside footies...pro ladderer)


 
ic3dt3aDate: Tuesday, 20-Nov-2012, 3:28 PM | Message # 26
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Also, this spell takes time for the dmg to occur. Instant spells > spells that take 3-6 seconds
during that 3-6 sec, u could lose ur kill OR get dmged by ur own spell

if ur in avatar or divine u jsut stand there and take it(lolololol)

but nova is weaker than it, 2 firestrikes can take out tier 5 units


http://chf.ucoz.com/forum/71-3499-61942-16-1396993348
 
FirNesSDate: Wednesday, 21-Nov-2012, 1:05 PM | Message # 27
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Fire strike is not op.
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2 firestrikes can take out tier 5 units

Lol. Use rats to silence, lasso, roots... That's not hard to counter. Plus the fact that it as small aoe, so darks can evade it quite easily. (as people often have Endu or Unholy).
This spell is just op against noobs... Roots / Banish / Firestrike = GG yes, but try it against pros, or even try goleming with it... if you have any good enemy with quite fair teams you may fail.

I did a game recently with someone of this forum (I won't quote but he'll recognize himelf) who went goleming with Firetstrike / Roots / Unholy / chims. Well teams weren't really fair but the diff wasn't that important. I just teched with Lasso / Acid / Unholy / FF and I pwned him easily, because this spell is easily evadable, since people often get roots / firestrike... Get any TP or FF and you won't die (I didn't die any time in that game).


 
2DaYuDiEDate: Wednesday, 21-Nov-2012, 3:38 PM | Message # 28
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Fire strike is not op.

yes it is.
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Use rats to silence, lasso, roots

ur logic is fcked up its like saying donation isnt op cuz u can just nuke it...
ofc if u stalk someone entire game with roots lasso and silence he gets fucked, what has that to do with the balance?
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Plus the fact that it as small aoe, so darks can evade it quite easily.

it has quite a big aoe, does about 300 dps and has no dmg limit

Quote (FirNesS)
Get any TP or FF and you won't die (I didn't die any time in that game).

wut? ofc u can tp from roots... whats your point? flame strike just does more damage than any single target spell and has no damage limit, why are we even discussing this?


 
i-connectDate: Wednesday, 21-Nov-2012, 4:18 PM | Message # 29
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ANOTHER THING ABOUT CHF IS BUFF THE ITEMS.. FFS IF YOU COMPARE THEM TO DOTA IT MAKES CHF ITEM LOOKS LIKE A PIECE OF SHIT. For example, you get cursed axe of saying for frosties it doesn't give you agi or strength and it cost 2700 gold to get the recipe for it and it gets worser if u dont finish, unlike dota you finish recipe it gets 2x better and some dont even need recipe. You would rather tech or some shit with your gold then item. Look at Fist of titan belt cost 450 for 10 str 3 for 30 str. 3 belt and a ring will equal a fist and way cheaper.. item gets worser when completing the recipe. i thought it should be better, but it gets awfully worse......
FiX: Make recipe cost like 1 gold except frosties need BUFF and make recipe cost 1 gold. AND PLUS MAULERS USES ITEM AND ONE ROD OF ENVY GG.
AOE MUCH BETTER THEN PIECE OF SHIT MAULER. ITEMS ARE NOT FAIR!


Message edited by i-connect - Wednesday, 21-Nov-2012, 4:20 PM
 
2DaYuDiEDate: Wednesday, 21-Nov-2012, 5:13 PM | Message # 30
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hmm would it be a good idea to remove base pet, jaoods ammy and boots and in return buff hp, mana, ms, mana regen of all heroes?

 
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