OK I need your help organizing all the legit ideas for 4.1
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a_chinese_kid | Date: Thursday, 17-Jan-2013, 8:02 PM | Message # 121 |
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| Quote (Vexslasher) Critical Strike Aura - pretty much same as the evasion one above I like evasion because that would help against mauling types of peeps even though everything is pretty much spell based rapage. Crit would be super strong even with low chances. units could even more easily kill heroes. If this is implemented please make sure it doesnt work with some creeps - creepshop and probably darks
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Vexslasher | Date: Friday, 18-Jan-2013, 1:08 AM | Message # 122 |
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| I just thought of a new mode.
AP mode - In this mode the hero picking taverns would change into the taverns that have every hero to choose from, even the special ones like windale jamie etc. you would still be able to pick spells or do ars or whatever but everyone would get the exact hero they want to use in this mode. maybe the better heroes could cost slightly more or something to help balance it out a bit. so the cheaper heroes could be like 1800 or something. then the better ones could be 1900.
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2DaYuDiE | Date: Friday, 18-Jan-2013, 7:34 AM | Message # 123 |
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| the mode i really want to see added is -ds (drafted skills) evry player gets his own 10 random skills and has to pick 3 out of em u could just do this by resetting all heroes that already pick spells (remove em and create new one of same type) and giving all the players a menu where they can chose their spells out of a list
this would be the best replacement of ars.. u can still make ur own spell combo, but not go the same retarded shit every game
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FirNesS | Date: Friday, 18-Jan-2013, 7:58 AM | Message # 124 |
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| +1 to helen
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FireHart | Date: Friday, 18-Jan-2013, 9:08 AM | Message # 125 |
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| Ap mode hmm ok nice idea but keep the price of cheap heroes (farseer Tauren ogre and hulk like those kak heroes) at 1800 then middle class heroes (princess pink cyray cattle bruiser ranger) at like 1900 then the op heroes (bonds Jamie old blood shadowhunter94 angel of doom Cou, just the op heroes) at like 2200 cause just one hero can change a game but all the people that don't take the time to code can't use certain heroes like bonds and those heroes but think about that. also have a random choice
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Adam_CZ | Date: Monday, 21-Jan-2013, 5:53 PM | Message # 126 |
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| OK, I created account here and will write my opinion about 4.1 version (and sorry for my bad english I hope you will understand me). Something is deatils something is important i think.
a) Amulet spell of shield: Why block Rod of Envy (Rod cost 1900 gold) but dont block Thors hammer (thors only 1450 gold)? Make amulet dont block rod of envy.
b) Explosion: Fix explosion. Description explosion is (3 level) "all units damage 75% only darks 50%" but its not true. Units from tier 4 give only 50% damage not 75% (and tier 4 not darks, darks is tier 5) Explosion dont kill some units in FTD mode but why? It kill pinguins, it kill golem Night teror and it kill hero with jesus ring. So why dont kill some units from FTD mode?
c) I can not click by mouse on hereoes "Princess in Pink" and "CyRay" maybe its only my problem I dont know...
d) Description some spells.... when i use banish on enemy hero and after spells how much bigger damage in % is it? I can not see it.... How much give damage Raven companion... (but its deatil no important)
e) Thunderstorm and Starfall have different icon in this place where you chose spells, but after in game have same icons... maybe fix it but no important.
f) Some people say Druids is OP. Its not true they are weak, 2 jammie dispel them very easy in 5 seconds, tower teror too... or wizzard and shaman. Druids its OK how they are now... no need fix. Or maybe make them more strong because its really easy dispel.
g) 2x Ninja cloak is bug... hero is invisible when use spells, fix it pls
h) Donation: remove this spell out of game... its stupid... player is getting money only when he is staying in base and doing nothing. SSD mode donation 5x heroes only with summons its horrible.
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F00ty_R3b0rn | Date: Monday, 21-Jan-2013, 6:36 PM | Message # 127 |
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| Adam try to read all before post. We have already said a lot of things.
For donation my idea was "-no donation" but Helekiller has a better idea : Disable donation every games AND nerf this spell AND make it possibles to do "-donation on"
And druids is really hard to dispel. You need 2 or more jamie (=1100 gold ---> expensive). And you can still use cyclone....
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2DaYuDiE | Date: Monday, 21-Jan-2013, 6:59 PM | Message # 128 |
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| Quote (Adam_CZ) d) Description some spells.... when i use banish on enemy hero and after spells how much bigger damage in % is it? I can not see it.... How much give damage Raven companion... (but its deatil no important)
f) Some people say Druids is OP. Its not true they are weak, 2 jammie dispel them very easy in 5 seconds, tower teror too... or wizzard and shaman. Druids its OK how they are now... no need fix. Or maybe make them more strong because its really easy dispel. banish does 33% extra dmg at all lvls i think raven does 65 dmg each attack at max lvl druids are plain op bs, nerf them ALOT
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Adam_CZ | Date: Monday, 21-Jan-2013, 7:14 PM | Message # 129 |
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| i dont know how much is banish but its not 66% definitely... its max 33%
druids is not OP is easy dispel them, 2 jammie is not problem....
there are spells more OP than druids... what about explosion and potion of focus - you kill pinguins (14 500 gold lost) you kill this big red golem (i think hes called Night teror - 15000 gold)... this is 10000x more OP than some 6 druids
Mindrape not OP? Yesterday one guy used mindrape on my hero when i have pinguins and healing ward of gods... and he use it after... 1000x more than OP.... also they used mind rape on my altar of gods and use it... really there are spells 1000x more OP than druids...
most OP is Donation... i remember guy who get almost 10 000 gold per donation (+ he used potion of focus everytime after)...
explosion, mindrape, donation... 100x more OP spells than druids... nerf it?
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a_chinese_kid | Date: Monday, 21-Jan-2013, 11:19 PM | Message # 130 |
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| Quote (Adam_CZ) Mindrape not OP? Yesterday one guy used mindrape on my hero when i have pinguins and healing ward of gods... and he use it after... 1000x more than OP.... also they used mind rape on my altar of gods and use it... really there are spells 1000x more OP than druids... User error.. Also explosion is strong but it only gets strong late game and fits situations against creeps alone. It has an extra long cast time too btw. Druids can give you 1000+ gold every 4-5 minutes. They both have different uses you cant compare the two
Quote (Adam_CZ) i dont know how much is banish but its not 66% definitely... its max 33% actually banish is a lot more powerful than people realize.. Quote (Adam_CZ) there are spells more OP than druids... what about explosion and potion of focus - you kill pinguins (14 500 gold lost) you kill this big red golem (i think hes called Night teror - 15000 gold)... this is 10000x more OP than some 6 druids someone with good macro can make you pay bad for them. I know for a fact I can kill your 1000 gold investment before you bring down half my health.Quote (Adam_CZ) most OP is Donation... i remember guy who get almost 10 000 gold per donation (+ he used potion of focus everytime after)... Yeah donation is way OP. Everyone agrees its a no strat win. It is counter-able but the fact you have to put in so much effort to get reward from donation while they get huge rewards using little to no effort is unfair
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RosarioVampireZ | Date: Tuesday, 22-Jan-2013, 6:29 AM | Message # 131 |
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| Here comes the list of retarded updates that MUST come:
NERF death tower. There is ABSOLUTELY no COUNTER to this ultimate. Don't try bs-ing me Bond. U know as well as I do that with good positioning, ur basically unstoppable and the enemy has to get a capitulet which is FREE transmute to enemy (costs more than 1k to stop 1 tower...-.-)
NERF bolt STUN cd. This stun is absolutely longer than the time it takes for my grandma to run 10000 miles.
BUFF frost arrow. One of strongest ladder spells is so sh3t that they even sell cheap orbs thats better than this spell? wow...this is just fail
NERF cost of Staff of Santcuary. Bond, admit it. No1 BUYS staff of santcuary or necklace of immunity. U know as well as I do that anyone who gets these two items is a COMPLETE IDIOT. Staff = 7k <= I can get like 3 holy maiden with this and give 1 to each of my teammates or BUY a ToT Necklace of Immunity = Hmm...Pengs + wards or darks + wards or a STUPID necklace. i wonder whats better O.o
Add Holy Light Creep Shamans do death coil right? So wheres a holy lighter? Seriously, Im sick of undead bond just r4ping every single game cause of blink, large hp, high defense, high intelligence, and the fact that it CANT be coiled (yet it can heal itself with coil)
Make Princess.Pink's and Cyray's hero CLICKABLE Freaking. Get these two unholy aura and THEY can NEVER be clicked. They are basically 2 of the most retarded unclickable heros in game
Remove blink on ALL Captain Bond heros Seriously? The strongest hero in game gets the best free skills too? You call this balance? I always blink away at least 40 bolts each game cause of the retarded op free spell
Add more dmg/AOE to Cluster Rockets Is this cr4p version of impale or a wannabe fire strike? Cluster TAKES FOREVER to start and has extremely low aoe .... Only thing its useful for is for losing
Add more AOE/dmg to Reign of Fire Currently a complete waste of spell. Seriously, even death pact has got to be better than this
Frost Armour Level 6 has same defense as devotion aura? U jking me right Bond?
Remove food limit Ur base is gone....Now how u buy creeps to survive ur ally's base? U dont?!??!?!?!
Make Goatzilla DO something. IDK, add holy light..Yes!!! Holy LIGHT! <3
Nerf forcefield/explosion/donation = 3 free win spells that i dont understand
Banish Y does banish stack with explosion? Does Bond want lvl 3 explosion to kill heros with just banish? Wow... -.-
Brilliance Aura I call this the retarded aura. Theres base pet and a mana precept for 450 mana. I wonder y this aura even exists
Lava Spawns I would rather get 12 footies than 12 lava spawns
And ofc...other stuffs Me/others mentioned im just reiterating certain points here and there..xD
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2DaYuDiE | Date: Tuesday, 22-Jan-2013, 6:44 AM | Message # 132 |
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| Quote (RosarioVampireZ) Add more dmg/AOE to Cluster Rockets Is this cr4p version of impale or a wannabe fire strike? Cluster TAKES FOREVER to start and has extremely low aoe .... Only thing its useful for is for losing Quote (RosarioVampireZ) Remove food limit Ur base is gone....Now how u buy creeps to survive ur ally's base? U dont?!??!?!?! cluster rockets maxed is actually op now, it stuns an area and does about 1k dmg to each unit in it at lvl 6
food limit is nice, but would be cool to have like 2 food left when ur base dies, so u can at least buy a newt or something
i agree with the other stuff
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Adam_CZ | Date: Tuesday, 22-Jan-2013, 9:31 AM | Message # 133 |
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| Quote Make Princess.Pink's and Cyray's hero CLICKABLE Freaking. Get these two unholy aura and THEY can NEVER be clicked. They are basically 2 of the most retarded unclickable heros in game lol nice hear that i am not alone who cant click on this 2 heroes
Quote Remove blink on ALL Captain Bond heros Seriously? The strongest hero in game gets the best free skills too? You call this balance? I always blink away at least 40 bolts each game cause of the retarded op free spell
you can collect codes and you will have Captain Bond too.... there is many heroes who have blink (Medivh, Warden, Njaga).
I think give in 4.1 version chance 100% get secret hero not only 50% I have bad lucky and get bad hero everytime (yesterday i played 11 games and 9 games alchymist only 2 games Medivh)
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FirNesS | Date: Tuesday, 22-Jan-2013, 10:43 AM | Message # 134 |
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| Quote (Adam_CZ) f) Some people say Druids is OP. Its not true they are weak, 2 jammie dispel them very easy in 5 seconds, tower teror too... or wizzard and shaman. Druids its OK how they are now... no need fix. Or maybe make them more strong because its really easy dispel. Lololol. Druids can't be killed by jammies. You know why? Because when you know how to use them, you use cyclone on jammies and whatever creeps come, and firebolt / attack targets you really wanna kill. When you say druids suck then it's like saying you suck yourself.
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Adam_CZ | Date: Tuesday, 22-Jan-2013, 12:50 PM | Message # 135 |
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| Its not easy... often jammy priest is out of range cyclone (my english is very bad dont know how explain it).... and enemy have more priest in base and they are on different places you cant be with 6-7 druids on one moment on 3 places, stuning hero, cyclone priests.... OK I know i am very slow and have bad APM but i think nobody is too fast that he can stun hero, cyclone priests in one moment
OK Edit my message: Somebody here posted today link on youtube it was game 2 days ago here is link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6cSBlho77Y
watch pls scene at 01:40 video and you will see what i am talking about... I am this red with druids and stunning hero (AccCreate green) heal him with death coil again and again... I can not use cyclone on green hero because he is out of range druids you see? and same its with jammie priests who dispell... watch video and you will know what i am talking about
and sory for my bad english i hope you understand me little
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