T1 : helekiller, knurzfoten, pub(who teched this time) T2: me, pub but listend well, killerrange(he wanted tech) T3: firness and his 2 friends T4 : pub
t1 and t3 used all their firepowers on us and our pub ally didn't come out from skill shop. he just tooked exp untill the end of mass so we completely lost mass. we were lv3~lv4 while t1 and t3 were lv6~7. w/e killerrange wanted tech but I SAID "NO" so he didn't and that was right decision
t1 had best mass but teal upgraded his base to use units. so I could xmute them and earn money. also we didn't spent money for tech. so finally we could win this game. BECAUSE WE DIDN'T TECH
my build was unholy lasso nova with mass tp. nihob was bolt swarm tich aura(anyway he havent played CHF for a while so his skill sunked ) I teched this time but I didn't expect that t1 would go mass aoes like xmonsterr the best AOE xmute team. because t1 was full stacked. anyway helekiller and knurzfoten had same build. Divine shiled, Shockwave, Carrion swarm, Xmute. stax build was Storm bolt, Carrion, WW, Xmute
so.. my tech just fu%ked up and fed them everything. stax built TERROR TOWER, knurzfoten spent his money for multishot TOWERS. at late game he said it was 25 upgrade they don't had to build towers cuz their aoe could kill every units.
seriously this isn't footy game. tech is way to lose. without mass pool, without good supporters, without any place to feed off, you can't win decent/pro aoe players. I don't wanna blame my buddies. and that's the reason why i left so many crying post about balance. need some advantage to tech players. or nerf aoes
Rest in Peace Rookies
Message edited by SOUNDWAVES - Monday, 21-Nov-2011, 12:42 PM
buff tech....make it a real footmen wars , not a custom hero arena becuz there are way better custom hero arena maps with more balance pew pew - hele killer style
when I was rookie I abused ww aoes a lot and won easily. or mass pool from mass aoe allies. Alex and some other old players blamed me about that. thought it was just excuse. In retrospect, they were right. except mass pool part. problem wasn't mass pool but mass aoes. I noticed this from 5.4
I mean everything has counters to it now. You use to be able to base rush with chims/pheonixes but troll bats counter them quicker then anything, golemners got those lizzys, divine maulers got nets, tech/mass poolers and rushers got cannons, towers got the wizards, summons countered by jammies and lots more etc but aoe users got the best advantage if you know how too use it.
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Quote (SOUNDWAVES) goleming used to be the best counter of mass aoes but now it doesnt working anymore since lizzard came out
items such as penguins should be raised in price a bit(like 16k) altar should be 20k, these items are too much of a common thing in games now, they used to be rare in 1hr+ games. http://chf.ucoz.com/forum/71-3499-61942-16-1396993348
Agreed, although tech is still good for base defense and basekilling but unless you capitalize early, get big pools and are significantly ahead it is hard to make it worth while. Mr.Ford...
I have to agree with sound for the 1st time even mass pool doesn't cut it anymore techs been really useless lately u have to be way ahead in lvl n rush straight after mass if u want ur tech to work otherwise u could have shitload of units n have massive upgrades on them n still be sitting ducks for aoe ww users to come n cast maximum twice to fuk pretty much all ur units...
I've lost 5 out of 8 games for techin over the weekend If I tell you I am good, You will probably think I am boasting. If I tell you I am bad, You will Know I am lying.
I have to agree with sound for the 1st time even mass pool doesn't cut it anymore techs been really useless lately u have to be way ahead in lvl n rush straight after mass if u want ur tech to work otherwise u could have shitload of units n have massive upgrades on them n still be sitting ducks for aoe ww users to come n cast maximum twice to fuk pretty much all ur units...
I've lost 5 out of 8 games for techin over the weekend
reason for fail teching is usually the other heros are already higher up and toming like crazy. another mistake(which i do alot) is buff teh crap outta my units in order for a (safe and effective) base rape. but idk y u guys would lose? rod of envy puts their heros out of commission for 2 minutes.... 3 runes can "counter" this though. but usually, if u sleep u go back to that hero to kill it right b4 it comes out of sleep(best spells are like coil shadow strike or cold strike, they are fastest cast time) http://chf.ucoz.com/forum/71-3499-61942-16-1396993348
woot Added (2011-11-21, 8:05 PM) --------------------------------------------- yay bans over,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, okay,,,, this problem is very simple to fix,,, like i said from the beginning, TAKE OUT THE CANNONS SO THAT IT CANT KILL THE FOOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALOT MORE PPL WILL FOCUS ON TECK SO THEY DONT MASS FEED, AND IT WOULD BE KOOL IF U PUT IN MY "MASS EVERY 5-10 MINS IDEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
welcome back bro, didnt know u were banned, i woulda started a "free masta killa" movement had i known. dude, i always try to go for the scout towers when possible, also avoids having to go up against a ToT. just keep disabling hero abilities and ur good. http://chf.ucoz.com/forum/71-3499-61942-16-1396993348
yay bans over,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, okay,,,, this problem is very simple to fix,,, like i said from the beginning, TAKE OUT THE CANNONS SO THAT IT CANT KILL THE FOOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALOT MORE PPL WILL FOCUS ON TECK SO THEY DONT MASS FEED, AND IT WOULD BE KOOL IF U PUT IN MY "MASS EVERY 5-10 MINS IDEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We need another Ban Request...LOL :P uhmm... if u out the cannon... then EVERY TEAM would have at least 1 BLIZZARD OR FIRE STRIKE... this FKS UP THE GAME EVEN MORE -THINK IDIOT... -imagine 3 swarm divine blizz shock with transmute... i would leave the game in 1 min- o.O O.o o.O O.o You do not know me and thus, you can not judge me.
lmao rosa. i played a game like this but i was only one with ww instead of divine... THE KS THAT I Did was LMAO! SINCE NO ONE BOTHERED TO GET WARDS AND STUFF I CUD SIT BEHIND A HERO AND KS! (BTW its called flame strike, just figured out what u were talking about in the other thread since the flame stun thing cant do friendly fire :P). As for tech, i enjoy teching. i just make sure i take wards so i can get enuf for tier 2 out of mass(2.35k so a little pool might be needed). as of right now my best tech build is wards endurance/devotion impale vengeance and tech orc t1 NE t2 orc t3(no specials on night elf) orc t4 and if i go darks i get elit.
but 1 good thing with tech is now when you can change race after ever tier without no extra cost. so i usual get tier 1 elintain tier 2 elintain or undead (it depends on if i want to go hk or bk) tier 3 elintain tier 4 orc tier 5 orc becuse then i can on tier 3 or tier 2 if i go elintain uppgrade hp on them becuse it will still be there on orcs
during first game u got alot of free money and free xp from teal cause he run to ur base like 24/7 with only 8-12 foots (kodos). we were level 20 when u were lvl 12. u got so much xp and so much money.
hele was building tot but u ´ve been 1 sec to fast with ur terror golem:) 1 sec longer and tot would be builded:)
but was good game:)
and we lost cause of teals feed. idc about this lost game but we shouldn´t lose this game!
just divine make jamie lvl 2 xmute, lvl 1 is too soon... golems and newts lvl 3 xmute. add anti xmute shield on priest of protection 30 second 200 mana cost http://chf.ucoz.com/forum/71-3499-61942-16-1396993348
