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OK I need your help organizing all the legit ideas for 4.1
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| Adam_CZ | Date: Wednesday, 20-Mar-2013, 11:11 AM | Message # 286 |
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| Quote (FireHart) All xmutable creeps need some sort of blocker like the jammy has.
Jammy need no possible transmute with hero level 6 (like shamans now)... If you play vs black arrows and they have transmute you have no chance.... Or make no this long coldown for item "power of priest".
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| FirNesS | Date: Wednesday, 20-Mar-2013, 2:49 PM | Message # 287 |
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| Ya lower the cd for the higher jammy.
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| Lamsauce | Date: Wednesday, 27-Mar-2013, 3:04 PM | Message # 288 |
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| does anyone else think it should be a good idea where deathtower has the same range as arcane tower or no? i find it op that at a certain range DT can hit arcane but cant hit DT.. sometimes i find myself being double DT and cant do shit about it :/
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| RosarioVampireZ | Date: Wednesday, 27-Mar-2013, 8:29 PM | Message # 289 |
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| Death tower and serpent wards are just retardely overpowered with no counters lam
i think death towers should not be allowed to kill peasant ^^
And serpent wards should be dispellable
and ofc
ZoZ and summoning stone need to get better
summoning stone naga netters shouldnt be dispelled and ZoZ lvl 6 should kill mpre than footy
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| FirNesS | Date: Thursday, 28-Mar-2013, 10:53 AM | Message # 290 |
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| I think we should nerf a lil bit creeps of summoning stone and make them undispellable.
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| 2DaYuDiE | Date: Thursday, 28-Mar-2013, 2:36 PM | Message # 291 |
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| invis cloak is too cheap... has no mana cost and it doesnt wear off like ww
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| FireHart | Date: Thursday, 28-Mar-2013, 2:46 PM | Message # 292 |
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| Then there is the glitch with 2 cloaks
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| Lamsauce | Date: Friday, 29-Mar-2013, 2:04 PM | Message # 293 |
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| double cloak is awsome lol .. yet annoying when its being used on moi
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| FireHart | Date: Friday, 29-Mar-2013, 3:43 PM | Message # 294 |
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| The thing is that don't tell pubs they will ruin it for you lol
. Personal experience
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| Bond009 | Date: Monday, 01-Apr-2013, 6:28 PM | Message # 295 |
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| so for the past month or so i havent been keeping up with any of this from lack of time. also reading and organizing through the ideas is my least enjoyable part of this so i tend to put it off lol
If someone with organizational skills and time would be willing to go through all these pages in this thread and make 1 complete list with as few words as possible i will dedicate a hero to you for new version.
Here are the requirements:
I want short lists of things that are in related categories kinda like rosa did on the first page.
Its a good example with spell balance adjustments, and glitch/fixes, etc in their own section but most of this is pretty useless to me in terms of it has no reasoning behind it or explanation. like shockwave for example.. what lvl to adjust its damage and also sometimes things like that need justification, now while i agree it could maybe use less dmg it cant = impales dmg becuz then impale is much better becuz it also has the stunning affect.. stuff like that.
Make sure to clearly show if its a nerf? buff? in what method would be the best manner to nerf or buff it.. like lower stun time increase damage? what lvls are the problem and need changing.. etc... If there is a glitch u found TELL HOW you did it or pm me.. i do not have free time to test how it was done and then spend time finding a fix and then spending more time testing to make sure it worked, at least tell me exactly how to find the glitch to save me sOme time..
If you want to state who its from thats fine but it doesnt matter too much, also make sure to try and not make doubles of things if it was mentioned 10 times only write it one but u can say *10 ppl said this* if you wanna so i know what are the major important things.
Also make sure to separate game fixes and balance changes from game add ons or new ideas as there is already enough for 1 version and will probably save that for later plus that stuff takes more time.
Quote • AOE Spells
⁃ Shockwave
⁃ Need to hit the amount impale is hitting
⁃ Impale
⁃ Need to have 45-60 more damage for it to be useful at level 6
⁃ Chain Lightning
⁃ Lower damage by 25
⁃ Fan of Knives
⁃ Increase damage by 100
⁃ Should be strongest in game cause going near enemy units is suicide
• Hero Kill Spells
⁃ Cold Strike
⁃ Need to hit 50 damage less
⁃ Storm Bolt
⁃ Need bolt nerf. The time you are stunned is way too long
⁃ Entangling Roots
⁃ Duration should be very short at early levels. (Preferably just a little over a second at level 1)
⁃ Shadow Strike
⁃ Change dp3s to dps
⁃ Siphon Manadrain
⁃ Need longer distance
⁃ Level 6 should be extremely high mana drain so that no hero, not even Jaina, could stand with infinity mana for more than 3 seconds
⁃ HP drain
⁃ Like Siphon Manadrain, this spell should be able to kill a hero in about the same time as when lasso lvl 3 ends
⁃ Need longer distance
• Summoning Spells
⁃ Treants
⁃ Size should be a lot smaller (footmen size? xD)
⁃ Beetles
⁃ Size should be a lot smaller (footmen size)
⁃ Summoning Stone
⁃ At level 6, there should be option to upgrade summons to non-dispellable
⁃ Lava Spawn
⁃ Should have immolation from lvl 3
⁃ Higher hp
• Heros At Start
⁃ Captain Bond / Undead Bond
⁃ Change blink for speed burst
⁃ All intelligence hero except fastest ubercat
⁃ Lose Amulet of Power
⁃ Hulk / Pit Lord / Crypt Lord / Tauren Chieftain / Ogre Mauler
⁃ Need Amulet of Power
⁃ Hulk / Pit Lord / Ogre Mauler / Kickstart
⁃ Should be only one with speed boots at start of game
⁃ Jaood
⁃ Needs higher damage early game
⁃ Regular héros
⁃ Early additional gold
• Creeps
⁃ Lizzard
⁃ Faster CD
⁃ Newt
⁃ Faster CD
⁃ Remove food limit. Pretty useless with the long CD.
⁃ Goatzilla
⁃ Nondispellable or upgrade to nondispellable
• Towers
⁃ Frost Tower
⁃ Firebolt should be bought separately after upgrading. Too op for 300 gold
• Items
⁃ Lower price for lightspeed boots
⁃ Lower price for the magic-wont-kill you recipe
⁃ Lower price for perm invisibility recipe
⁃ Too expensive overall. Better to take windwalk
⁃ Lower price for most strength items
⁃ Strength items are rarely used cause mana > all
⁃ Mindrape item
⁃ Should work at chimeras, phoenix, and bears
⁃ Stackable
⁃ 3 Mindrape item = Able to mindrape penguins
• Tech
⁃ Footmen should more resistant to spells late game
⁃ Archers should start dealing some damage. Rather take 1 grunt than 4 archers -.-
⁃ Undead ghouls and skeletal mages need more hp
• Miscellaneous Spells
⁃ Death Pact
⁃ Level 6 should have less CD
⁃ Frost Amour
⁃ Needs much more armor
⁃ Death and Decay
⁃ Much more % needed. 2 explosion destroys anything in about 3 seconds but this takes forever -.-
⁃ Death Tower
⁃ Shouldn't have splash when hitting peasants
⁃ More gold
⁃ Less HP
⁃ Doom Guards
⁃ Level 2 needs to be better
⁃ Quilbeast
⁃ Level 3 should have splash
• Modes
⁃ FTD
⁃ Creep waves should be able to detect windwalk after first round
⁃ SSD
⁃ Instead of 300, 225?
⁃ ARS
⁃ Dark Ritual, Death Pact, Vigor = Removed from game
⁃ CLASSIC
⁃ There's glitches once a while with the new heros. You either don't get first level credit OR your missing a spell OR you have 0 free empty slots -.-
This would be the best layout to do this for example, short 1 liners straight to the point.
Spells:
-Shockwave (lower dmg slightly each lvl)
-Impale (+45-60 dmg for it to be useful at level 6)
-Raging Storm (buff dmg slightly at lvl 4, 5, 6)
etc..
Game Fixes:
-Thunderstorm (Fix Icon. current icon is same as starfall)
-Goatzilla's spirit link (doesnt work, also plz make hotkey R)
-kill command (kills multi shot towers)
^format to follow
rosa's layout is not bad for the most part, just missing a few things that i mentioned above. Anyway if anyone would be up for doing this it would help a lot and give an actual chance of having 4.1 get done at some point here lol. i dont mind mapping with my little free time but i do mind reading and organizing and sifting through 20 pages of shit 
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| F00ty_R3b0rn | Date: Tuesday, 02-Apr-2013, 4:17 PM | Message # 296 |
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| I Can do this for you !
Current CHF APM ! The Legend is R3b0Rn !
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| Bond009 | Date: Tuesday, 02-Apr-2013, 8:38 PM | Message # 297 |
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| thanks ok now i can cover some ground when i get time to map edit with the list organized now.
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| FirNesS | Date: Wednesday, 03-Apr-2013, 1:09 AM | Message # 298 |
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| Well if Footy has not done it yet I'll do it this afternoon, I've got much spare time.
And maybe we'll do it together. 
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| Ticklemonster | Date: Wednesday, 03-Apr-2013, 2:22 AM | Message # 299 |
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| Another thing to add to fix list another two actually. So I get selection bug whenever I open allies, menu, chat or try change music during the mass. Don't know if this can be fixed??
Other thing is, I have had some pubs asking why they can't load stats and it says for them "if you going to use hack make it more believable" or something. When you made this for fallers hacked map I dpnt think you realised some pubs gain there wins simply by being carried and they do not get many kills towards their stats so it seems like an unrealistic number.
#CHFbecamedsucks
Adam_CZ "wildjap is the worsest player chf ever"
[-FTL-]RoyStoM "you never win me or win team ftl jajajajaj i god for game"
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| FirNesS | Date: Wednesday, 03-Apr-2013, 7:08 AM | Message # 300 |
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| Well Footy told me he had almost finished to do it so I won't help you this time.
But I'd have been happy to!
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